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Keith-OR

05-15-2006 16:46:21

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Hey Allan, I remembered that you planted some dry land alfalfa. What was the name and brand of seed. How much rain fall is needed. Thanks.

Keith & Shawn

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Bill in Colo

05-16-2006 11:37:38

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Try Ray Brothers seed co in Idaho they have a variety that is adapted to mountian west dryland.

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Keith-OR

05-16-2006 09:06:56

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Thanks for the education. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Thanks everyone for the responses to alfalfa for dry lands. It is a waste of time to check locally for seed that will survive dry climate. Most of our land is all under irrigation, sprinklers systems, circles,and flood irrigation, so 99% of seed suppliers only know about irrigated crops.

Allan...Hows your alfalfa doing so far. Questions....hows the weed control. I know you said you have cheat grass, what about foxtail grass(weeds)

Keith & Shawn

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nw_bearcat

05-16-2006 10:35:59

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Re: Thanks for the education. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-16-2006 09:06:56

While i understand that there may not be many people in your area competent in advising for dry land production, i would caution you to relying too much on recc's from those too far away from your growing area. There are several characteristics of a variety that will make it work very well in one area, but will cause it to flop in another. Product placement is key to top production, and when dealing with an investment type crop such as alfalfa, i suggest that you do your best to make sure what you start with is a quality product. I have worked w/ the America's brand of alfalfa's and like the 403T very much--in Missouri and IA, I could not make any judgement as to what it would do in Oregon. depending on your winter conditions, it may turn into a very expensive annual legume.

moral of the story: if the people you are talking to now are not competent in giving dryland recc's, contact a company directly (America, Mycogen, et. al) or talk to more people near you. just a thought

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krm

05-16-2006 07:45:33

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Here in Sou.In.we would gladly give everyone who wanted water all they could suckup right now,we haven't seen the sun in a week and still have at least 4 more days of clouds.

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gene bender

05-16-2006 05:03:51

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Check with your local dealer as your climate is different there and so is your soil. Brother uses PIONEER and gets 6-8 tons per A. But this is IOWA and no irrigation. Soil conditions and well drained with tile if needed also enter.

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RickL

05-16-2006 04:39:26

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Keith-OR; Hi I also raise alfalfa only now days alsong with small grains in Iowa.I have always used American brand Alfalfas 403T etc. HAve all the prices if you need more info but should be someone in your area as they are very well known for their product. Althou they were bought buy another sed outfit this season early,can't for the life of me tell name now who owns as still go buy American name far as sales.I will be doing the roundup Ready stuff next spring. Its $345 50lb bag

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Andyrk

05-16-2006 15:13:17

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Iowa Jim, 05-15-2006 19:51:15

Used seedway 450, clover, alfalfa, and grass mix, its been ready to mow for 2 weeks, but its been a little wet here in central PA the past couple days, cover croped with wheat, this year it looks great, and the price was a little cheaper, $99 for a 50lb bag. not near the yeild as some of the varieties, but it does what i want!

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Allan In NE

05-15-2006 17:42:10

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

Hi Keith,

This last go "round, I mixed Vernal, Ranger and some field run stuff right out of a combine last fall. Old brands, but I"m just doing this for fun; not trying to get rich.

Alfalfa is just like corn and sugar beets in that it takes a slug of water to produce; roughly 3 to 4 inches per cutting.

Plant it shallow and a quarter inch of rain will easily bring it up.

Allan

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Keith-OR

05-15-2006 21:20:03

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Allan In NE, 05-15-2006 17:42:10

Thanks Allan, but I did not realize you got that much rain in NE during the summer time. I'm not even thinking about making any money on this, I have some dry land, can't get water to it so was wanting something that required little water,just rain fall.

Keith & Shawn

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Allan In NE

05-16-2006 02:59:30

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 21:20:03

Keith,

We don't get the rain in this country. That's why we usually only get one cutting a year on the dryland.

Down on the irrigated stuff, a fellow might get lucky and get a fourth cutting depending on the year. Frost is a big thing out here too.

Allan

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WyoDave

05-15-2006 19:08:08

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Allan In NE, 05-15-2006 17:42:10

Did I hear somebody ask for some water? Started irrigating here.
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Allan In NE

05-16-2006 03:25:17

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to WyoDave, 05-15-2006 19:08:08

Mornin' Dave,

Do they always turn in the district water this early? Down here, they usually open the gates around the 4th of July weekend.

Allan

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williamf

05-16-2006 03:51:07

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Allan In NE, 05-16-2006 03:25:17

The government turns on the water where y'all are? What a concept! I'm calling our county council lady.We need rain!
Wm

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WyoDave

05-16-2006 03:35:33

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Allan In NE, 05-16-2006 03:25:17

Good Morning Allan. Having water this early isn't real uncommon. They call it a hay run. We'll only have water for about 3 weeks, then they'll turn it off untill around the first of July. During wet years we'd have water straight through from the first of May till October, but that hasn't happened lately.
David

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Allan In NE

05-16-2006 04:23:57

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to WyoDave, 05-16-2006 03:35:33

Just going by your set, it looks like you've got about a foot and a half of water feeding that gated pipe?

Got a nice fall to your headland too.

Allan

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paul

05-15-2006 17:06:38

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Re: Allan dry land alfalfa farmers. in reply to Keith-OR, 05-15-2006 16:46:21

I'm not Allan, & I live in wet & humid Minnesota....

But the most knowledgeble fellow I know on dry alfalfa is 'Hay Wilson' from a part of Texas that doesn't typically grow alfalfa. You can easily run into him over at:

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--->Paul

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