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sjh

05-10-2006 18:43:46




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Does any one know the orgins of painting barns red. Mine will be built this year and I will paint it red.




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THEkyroastnear

05-11-2006 20:43:47




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
never gave it much thought but kind of intresting explainations. here in my area of westrn ky. we see red or black with some exceptions local big cattle man had all his white. big dairy farmer had all green. also know of one oddball yellow one oddball blue



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msb

05-11-2006 20:19:43




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Some of the first red barn paints were made from a mixture of blood(usually cow's blood at slaughter time) and milk.



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Mattlt

05-11-2006 12:47:27




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
I always remember hearing the story like this:

"Why are barns painted red?"
"Because red paint was so cheap."
"Why was red paint so cheap?"
"Because they sold so much of it."



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Bill46

05-11-2006 10:22:21




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
I ask my grandpa this 50+ years ago. We had red ones and black ones on the farm. The black ones were the tobbacco barns. The leaves cured faster because the barn got hot faster in the daytime. Of course we now know that black throws off heat faster..so they must have cooled faster at night too.
The red came from red oxide. They used it in the old country (Germany) to help keep mold and mildew down. They mixed it with other things such as flax seed and other oils...heck I can't remember all the stuff.
Anyway, in my part of the country it was a carry over from the old country, in my case Germany.
When I was in the Army and stationed there, there were a lot of old red barns...some of them really big. They used to live in them with the live stock. Bet that was fun.

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Paul from MN

05-11-2006 10:04:01




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
This from howstuffworks.com

Centuries ago, European farmers would seal the wood on their barns with an oil, often linseed oil -- a tawny-colored oil derived from the seed of the flax plant. They would paint their barns with a linseed-oil mixture, often consisting of additions such as milk and lime. The combination produced a long-lasting paint that dried and hardened quickly. (Today, linseed oil is sold in most home-improvement stores as a wood sealant.) Now, where does the red come from?

In historically accurate terms, "barn red" is not the bright, fire-engine red that we often see today, but more of a burnt-orange red. As to how the oil mixture became traditionally red, there are two predominant theories:

Wealthy farmers added blood from a recent slaughter to the oil mixture. As the paint dried, it turned from a bright red to a darker, burnt red. Farmers added ferrous oxide, otherwise known as rust, to the oil mixture. Rust was plentiful on farms and is a poison to many fungi, including mold and moss, which were known to grown on barns. These fungi would trap moisture in the wood, increasing decay. Regardless of how the farmer tinted his paint, having a red barn became a fashionable thing. They were a sharp contrast to the traditional white farmhouse. As European settlers crossed over to America, they brought with them the tradition of red barns. In the mid to late 1800s, as paints began to be produced with chemical pigments, red paint was the most inexpensive to buy. Red was the color of favor until whitewash became cheaper, at which point white barns began to spring up.

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LumbrJakMan

05-11-2006 08:15:34




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Well the way I was Taught, Barns are Red because they used " Beets " to make a dye and then Paint from the dye. Think about it Beets stain pretty bad. And if you had to plant a few extra rows every 5 or so years to freshen up the Barn , makes perfect sense. PLus you still had the Greens off the Plants to eat.I think theres some truth to this explanation.



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Don-Wi

05-11-2006 07:03:00




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
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Not all barns are red... My grandpa got a great deal on Yellow...
Donovan from Wisconsin



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Mike M

05-11-2006 06:40:40




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
I heard that it was because it was cheaper. But today they say red paint is the most expensive. Price some auto paint lately ? it is way out of site !



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NEsota

05-11-2006 06:33:29




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Under the work-bench in the farm shop, built about 1875, there was a wooden box with a red powder about the same texture as baking flour but heavier. As a kid, Dad told me it was used to make paint. I believe it was iron oxide and later got the impression that milk was mixed with it to make red paint. To comment further on the resourcefulness of the pioneer Nebraskans, my great-grandfather baked clay and made bricks right there on the place he homesteaded in 1867. That same year that land became part of Nebraska the State instead of Nebraska the Territory. I do not know what fuel was used to fire the bricks. Wood was scare in that county bordering Bloody Kansas and one county away from Missouri. There was some coal mined in there in the early days.

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Dachshund

05-11-2006 09:23:07




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to NEsota, 05-11-2006 06:33:29  
So that would put the place in Pawnee County, right? I'm one county north of there - Johnson County - 30 miles from Missouri and 30 miles from Kansas!



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NEsota

05-17-2006 21:15:26




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to Dachshund, 05-11-2006 09:23:07  
Dachshund, I attempted to send you email through the YT link. If you did not get it and would care to contact me try; johnduder@hotmail.com.



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cj3b_jeep

05-11-2006 05:12:46




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
I read about this in the Farm and Dairy a few years ago and it boiled down to cost. Except for white, red paint was the cheapest paint around and could be bought in huge quantity.



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barnrat

05-11-2006 03:17:01




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
The red paint was made from ox blood and a few other ingredients found on farm. Remember no Home Depots back in the 1800s.



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Pooh Bear

05-10-2006 21:43:49




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Probably cause iron oxide (rust) was cheap to add to whitewash
and that made it red.

I saw once it had something to do with using animal blood to paint barns.

Pooh Bear



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TomCNY

05-10-2006 19:27:53




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
It seems to me that I was once told that the reason barns were usually painted red had to do with the fact that many years ago red paint was the least costly to produce and sell. Unfortunately, I can't remember why!



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kyhayman

05-10-2006 19:26:39




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Heard lots of debate on this subject. Seems to be local custom. Around here, barns are black. Other areas they are white. Seems to be pretty consistant within an area though.



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Pete in MD

05-10-2006 18:53:37




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 Re: Barns painted red orgins in reply to sjh, 05-10-2006 18:43:46  
Do a Google Search on "red barns" for the answer to your question.



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