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nickg

05-08-2006 14:54:36




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I am thinking of getting my crank welded. It is out of a 310 Waukesha/Oliver turbo diesel. I just need one rod journal built back up (spun bearing) All the other journals are stock. New cranks are pricey and was think of going this way. i found a shop 2 hrs away that weld diesel cranks. i just wonder if anyone else ever did this? Will the turbo put to much stress on the crank? Or if it is welded correct should i be safe?

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IA Roy

05-09-2006 10:26:47




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
Is it too far gone to grind that journal down to an undersized bearing size. I had that done once on a 66 Chevy pu. Less expensive I would guess.



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BLW

05-09-2006 07:27:14




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
I have had it done and it worked fine= the welding is not the prob. regrinding it is-- make sure the shop has the correct machine to do your crank- there is only chance- if they screw up the grind some times it can not be rewelded and reground- other wise it should cause you no problem== the machine must be able to take the crank down to the revolution you need for the particular journal you are having welded and ground-- hope you make out OK you should

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Mike M

05-09-2006 06:04:14




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
Make sure the shop specializes in welding cranks.
I had some gas engines done before and they worked fine even though they were sure to point out NO WARRANTY ! I think alot of them won't do a diesel.



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nickg

05-08-2006 16:36:03




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
This is where I am going to take it. From what it sounds like it should be fine if it is done correct. Looks like they do quite a bit of it.

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Baril Engine Rebuilding, Inc.

996 Centennial Street
Green Bay, Wisconsin 54304
920-336-4600
1-800-236-8212
Fax 920-336-4700

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HD & Industrial Diesel
Automotive Gas & Diesel

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Ken L

05-08-2006 16:48:00




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 16:36:03  
Baril does excellent work. I have had them do a lot of work for me and I've never had a problem. If John says that they can do it, it will be done right.



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Mike in MI

05-08-2006 16:00:36




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
I have a friend that spun a rod bearing on his 1855 diesel.
They told him there was a machine shop in our area that spray welds the journals and machines them also.
They claim it doesn't temper the steel as much using the spray weld.
As far as I know he still running it with no problems.
Myself I'm not familer with it. Mike



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J Schwiebert

05-08-2006 15:47:41




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
You need to also take it to a shop that elds DIESEL cranks. The process is a little different than welding just a steel crank for a gas engine. It takes two different wires. Questions?



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Coloken

05-08-2006 15:30:25




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
I have had two cranks welded in my life. Both were 100 percent satisfactory. First was a Mercedies 230S..I had it turn 5000 rpm many times with no problems. Second was a Case 830 gas on a Case combine, again 100 percent OK.
Assuming a quality shop, of course.



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Greg_Ky

05-08-2006 15:08:56




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 Re: welding crank in reply to nickg, 05-08-2006 14:54:36  
If you have a competant crank shop you should not have any problem. I have assembled many with welded cranks with no problems. Check the radius on the journal that he welds to make sure that it is not too wide and make sure the oil hole has been chamfered.



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