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Tim Shultz

05-04-2006 20:38:13

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got a question for you guys. I am in need of a flat bed trailer to move my tractor to hay fields this summer. my sister just got a new stock trail and said that I can have for free the old one. it is very rusty.. I don"t think it is worth $400.. so I was thinking about cuttin the tin off the side. and thus making it a flat bed. but will this work? I have a guy who could do the torching. but are the axles good enough to move a tractor? it is a 16 foot twin axle. last year we had four steers in it they weight 950, 1,100 1,175 1,250.. so quite a bit of weight. I think it will work if I mod it enough. any input would be great! Tim Shultz

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IBorange in TX

05-05-2006 11:55:17

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

When you begin to change a trailer structure, you are asking for headaches, some you can see and some are hidden. Sell the horse trailer and go buy a tailer made trailer for your needs. No worry about the brakes, axles, etc.
I have built a couple of trailers and believe me you can buy a new one cheaper than the amount of money you have in your homemade trailer.

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Cliff Neubauer

05-05-2006 06:11:48

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

This winter we bought a used home built 22' gooseneck flatbed off a friend who built it cheap but it needed some work. I decided to change the hitch, put in new LED lights and it needs a new floor. I have scrap steel laying around to rebuild the hitch but I think we probably would have been better off to buy a good used factory built trailer already set up the way I want it. I am having fun working on this one but by the time I have it ready to use it's not going to be a cheap trailer anymore.

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05-05-2006 04:26:57

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

I agree with these guys. Towing your tractor around on a trailer that might? work is not worth the chance. You kind find a used tag along that will handle small tractors fairly reasonable.

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Allan In NE

05-05-2006 04:05:40

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

Mornin' Tim,

I think my least favorite past time in the whole world is trailern' tractors. I just plain don't like it. It makes me uncomfortable and ill at ease. Just don't like the idea of that darned heavy tractor following me around hooked to a tiny little ball. :>(

But, it is a chore that has to be done from time to time, so I do it.

I'm with JD on this one; get yourself a trailer that was made for the job. Don't be gambling with your tractor and your life on something that you have "guessed on the engineering".

If you shop around, you will find what you need at the right price.

Just my opinion,

Allan

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thejdman01

05-05-2006 03:05:31

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

I know tight on money etc but save up and buy a new one. I looked into buying a gooseneck. Could not even buy the steel for what they had the whole trailer sitting in my driveway for (brakes, tires, paint, assembly). A lot of companyies (to my suprise), even do custom trailers. It was built to my specifications (way overbuilt) 7inch center cross members etc. Still got it for under 8 grand but am sure price of steel goign up would be a bit more expensive but cannot afford to build one youself. I searched far and wide and found most used trailers bringing near new price, wasnt worth buying used in my opnion cause i couldnt find one "exacltly " like I wanted and for about 1000 more dollars vs used it was new and to my specification.

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Coldiron

05-04-2006 20:50:35

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

Tim, Some where on the trailer there should either be a stamping or a tag that will tell you the weight it can carry. I have an old Miley Horse trailer that has 2000 lb axles on it but some of them have much heavier axles. If it has a model no maybe you could notify the manufacturer and they could give you the weight limits of the axles. Have you checked the title for the weight limits?

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souNdguy

05-04-2006 20:47:16

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

Probably 3000 or 3500# axles... so capacity will be 6000 or 7000. A good 'car hauler' tandem with 7'x16 foot deck runs at about 1750#.. subtract that from gw and you have net load available.. See what the title to that old stock trailer says it's weight or gross weight is and do the math / guestimate. even if it was only a 6000 trailer and weighed 2000#.. that leaves you 4000# of payload... A ford N weighs about 2800 wet, and a mower weighs about 500-750 depending on brand. My ex- NH 1920.. a 4wd 33hp diesel, with a few add ons weighted 3300#.. add a 600 # mower and it would still fit.. what you trying to haul?

Braking is generally more an issue than tow vehicle hauling power.. so be aware of the rules and your limitations... electric brakes.. if equipped will be a nice addition.. be safe!

Soundguy

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Greg_Ky

05-04-2006 20:47:15

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Tim Shultz, 05-04-2006 20:38:13

CAUTION. The sides and roof structure are a key part of the structual integrity of the trailer. Take the roof and sides off it will weaken it substantially. Just my $.02

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J.C.H.

05-04-2006 21:31:51

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Re: trailer, help! in reply to Greg_Ky, 05-04-2006 20:47:15

I side with Greg. A Horse Trailer is basically a Uni-body design and removal of the side walls and roof does not mean that it will remain structually sound ,however if the trailer is a open top, this presents another option. Lowering the side wall height but still maintaining the reinforced sidewall in some fashion may work. I don't believe complete removal of the sidewall will render you a flat bed trailer. I would salvage the Axle and Brake system and Hitch and construct a new Framed Flat Trailer. A trip to a Dealer for a look see will show you the design needed. How ever you proceed remember that you are intending to haul on a Public Hiway and does the Public have any thing to fear for their safety by your actions.

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