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E85 Conversion for Tractors?

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Kerwin

04-20-2006 18:27:58




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With gas prices continuing to go up, I have to stir the pot a little and ask if it would ever be possible to convert an older gas tractor to burn E85 (85% ethanol, 15% gas).

Opinions/experience?

Thanks in advance for the information.




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Hermit

04-21-2006 18:25:43




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to Kerwin, 04-20-2006 18:27:58  
You might want to check out the futures prices for ethanol. They're looking more and more like unleaded. Plus remember when ethanol starts getting used frequently and in greater quantities, the government will start removing all the tax breaks at all levels and the price will jump to who knows what.



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Leland

04-20-2006 19:34:34




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to Kerwin, 04-20-2006 18:27:58  
Stick with gas you will be money ahead trust me ,I have a pickup set up for E85 and milage drops from 22 to 15 and it is even worse tring to tow using E85 it drops to 10 at times



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btlgeus

04-21-2006 08:58:17




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to Leland, 04-20-2006 19:34:34  
I'm sorry your so disappointed with with E85. I work with a person who loves it in his Suburban. His biggest gripe is it is hard to get because it sells out as soon as they fill the tanks at the stations. As for towing he insists his truck pulls his Bass boat with greater ease on E85. Claims to have lost about 3 mpg.



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btlgeus

04-20-2006 18:43:30




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to Kerwin, 04-20-2006 18:27:58  
I would think that with a jetting change in your carb for a richer mix you could run E85. The research I've seen shows that they aren't sure yet if it deteriates gaskets faster or not. Some say yes and some say they have seen only nominal difference in wear. I wouldn't make any changes till you are sure you have a steady supply available. The only drawback I can see is the possibility of increased gasket and hose wear. Around here we still have problems with availability.(Central Wisconsin)

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the tractor vet

04-20-2006 19:24:27




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to btlgeus, 04-20-2006 18:43:30  
Well yea you could open up the main jet BUT NOW KEEP THIS IN MIND that it will take twice the amount of E 85 to even come close to getting the same power and stright gas along with tryen to get the compression up to around 10 to 1 then it will not have any lug power Don't know how many of ya ever played with a Alki burnner and just how much fuel ya had to DUMP thru it to get it down the 1/4 mile as from what we tryed for tractor pullen with a built up tractor and the end results were a BUNCH OF SPARE UNUSEABLE PARTS from predetination because were could not get enough fuel into it even thru a 850 holley with 120 jets in the ft. and NO jets in the back then had to add a 1/4 inch line under the carb to spray more in . Sorry i am not sold on all this new gen. of renewable fuel in old tractors that were made to run on Gasoline as i see all the problems of running the 87 gas in a working tractor as we over here still have a bunch of everyday working gas tractors doing whatever on the farms and the 87 just doesnot cut it but they will run as close to full output on the 93 with out the plug fouling or swelling pistons or burning valves .

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Leroy

04-21-2006 17:38:45




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 Re: E85 Conversion for Tractors? in reply to the tractor vet, 04-20-2006 19:24:27  
I don't know where you are comming up with problems with 87 octain, that is all we have ran since 1974 and no problems with it, Fords from 41 to 68, and JD, MM, Ferguson, IHC



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