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Randall Ferguso

03-05-2006 15:29:29




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Looking at buying an old trailer that looks to have house trailer axles, brake wires are cut off at some point in the past ...if a person wanted to get the brakes to work, is that possible on 20 year old brakes or is expensive? Maybe I better to buy new axles or even a new trailer...
Your comments, please!




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Ga Jack

03-06-2006 16:18:42




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
tn terry t.
where can you buy parts for these trailer axels?
how do you determine manufactures?
do you know of any auto or truck hubs which will fit these axels to up grade them?
any help welcomed. THANKS, jackie



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Bus Driver

03-06-2006 15:51:04




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
FACT: Mobile home axles are now reused repeatedly. They are removed at setup and returned to the mobile home manufacturer. Can one draw a meaningful conclusion from that about the quality of the axles? I know that if I offer an opinion, someone will argue with it.



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Keith-OR

03-06-2006 19:06:21




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Bus Driver, 03-06-2006 15:51:04  
Durn it Bus Driver, you didn't define your opinion, so how am I to disagree with you. LOL.... Aw Geee whizz


Keith & Shawn



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Tim...Ok

03-06-2006 11:07:55




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
I built a gooseneck a few years ago with trailer house axles..went to a local trailer retailer and bought 8 holes hubs that fit those spindles..comes with seals,bearing,studs and new lug nuts for about $40 a wheel,ones with brakes were around $75 each.. those axles are heavy built,I just don't like the 14.5 clamp type wheels,my preference..now it has 16" 8 holes with 10 ply tires and I've hauled #17,000 of rock on this trailer with no problems..

Tim

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Keith-OR

03-06-2006 10:12:35




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 Old wives tales!! in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
Usually I don't respond to these threads, but so much has been said over the years about trailer house axels. Now what the heck defines them as such and what is the difference!!! All trailer house manufactures used either Hadco, Dexter, or Philip Industry axels. These are the same axel used on the utility trailers, be it either 3rd. point pull or fifthwheel, gooseneck, horse trailers and lite equipment trailers.I was an OEM and I have challenged so called experts to prove to me what the difference was, with the axels sitting sit by side, bearing, races, hubs, spindles, and main tube ( be it solid square or round tubing) Geess, guess what for some reason most axels used exactly the same parts...go figure!!! So I disclosed all the old wifes tales!!! Most OEM trailer suppliers will tell you that there is a difference, because they want to sell you thier product. I sold axels(Phillips industries)but if I was ask about a praticular axel or was shown, I surely would not lie to make a dime!! Give the honest answer!!

99% of the time was not axel failing, but was frame structure above, poorly designed combination of all components; exceeding the total capacity of axels, tires, springs and least but surely not last Wheels. Too lite of hangers or home made hanger, not welded on properly and the list goes on and on.

Most trailer house axels are of higher load capacity (8000 lb) than alot of the commercial trailers, excluding axels requiring dual wheel setup and ones required on commercial trailers.


Just my opinion after being in the industry for
period of time.

PS. I got out of the field as it got to the point most people wanted junk trailers,cut corners cut cost, and I refused to build junk, sold out and moved on!! My name ,rep and a$$ would have been on the line ... libility Factor... MOST important to me was My NAME...

Keith & Shawn

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MN Bob

03-05-2006 17:35:41




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
Are you using it for a farm/hay wagon?? If so its fine. If not, like the man said, check with the state requirements. You may have to narrow them down, plus the brakes etc. But two could make a fine hay wagon.



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RustyFarmall

03-05-2006 17:25:19




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
New trailers are priced fairly reasonable due to the fierce competition between makers. I would price a new one before making a decision.



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tn terry t

03-05-2006 15:52:09




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 Re: ?? about old trailer brakes in reply to Randall Ferguson, 03-05-2006 15:29:29  
be carefull about those house trailer axles some states really frown on them on the other hand i have two that i built out of twenty five yr old axles. you can still get parts for them



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