Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo Auction Link (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Tractor Talk Discussion Forum

Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Nathan in Texas

02-24-2006 10:16:15




Report to Moderator

Okay, the tractor search just went into uncharted territory. I called and checked into the Montana brand tractors because I had heard that they were cheap and decent, but I was actually shocked at their prices compared to the Kubota prices.

A Montana 2740 (27 hp 4x4) with loader was $16,500. To step up to a 38hp was $22,000.

The Kubota L4400 (45hp 4x4) with loader was $19,500 actually cheaper than the Montana brand.

The Kubota guy was a pretty good salesman and really talked up his tractors. Resale values, etc.

I've been looking at some pretty beat up 40+ year old tractors for $6,000 - $7,000 and I've always been afraid of buying one and then getting stuck with a $3,000 repair bill for an engine overhaul or something, and am now wondering if maybe I shouldn't just bite the bullet and go with a brand new Kubota.

I appreciate any input or advice.

Thanks, Nathan

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
cj3b_jeep

02-27-2006 07:26:46




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
I've never heard of the Montana Brand...any good? Where are they made? Also, did you look at Kioti brand tractors. They're South Korean but seem to be a pretty good product and claim to use old Kubota designs for their engines.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Mike Fenner

02-25-2006 19:42:13




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
Dang Nathan, I don't know where you are shopping, but yesterday afternoon I priced out a new'06 model 4940 Montana with Montana loader, 4x4, ag tires, cab with A/C, heat, sunroof and stereo, 8 speed shuttle shift, cat one hitch, 49 wheel horsepower. Sale price was MSRP $23,160. Want the dealer, R n R Industries Thayer MO. phone 417-264-7500 call and talk to Keven Russell, nice tractor sitting on the ground waiting for delivery. Me, I passed till the pastures green up a little better.
Mike

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
doodelbug

02-24-2006 18:51:48




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
if your in east tx. you might try the kubota dealer in wills point. i bought my L3400 at hunt county farm supply near greenville and got a good deal. i priced at 17 different dealers, also checked out mahindra (2nd choice).be glad to talk over the phone if youll email me your number.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
RusselAZ

02-24-2006 18:48:39




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
Two weeks ago I bought a used Kubota B7510 with 20 hours on it, from a dealer. It now has 25 and I love it. Your sales person was right about resale on a Kubota. If you consider what you could sell it for they don't cost as much.

I love old tractors but for the work I need it for this Kubota will get the job done. It had a loader and box blade with it and a back hoe can be put on it. The dealer I got it from also sells New Holland and they are a real nice tractor to and I looked at Massy-Ferguson also. Kubota rear wheels on mine are adjustable, Massy isn't on theirs, I think it was model 2350.

I looked at the cheaper imports and just couldn't see spending good money for one.

JMHO

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Quebec Bob

02-24-2006 12:14:47




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
Here's my 2 cents when I was faced with the same situation: A guy I trust who is in the business of fixing second hand tractors told me "If you plan to buy a 2nd hand 4WD tractor, add $3,000 to the purchase price. That way you can have a good tractor while knowing in advance what it really costs." I never forgot that. So when I went to add on a 4WD loader tractor in addition to my old reliable Massey 50, I kept it in mind. I considered new and couldn't justify the expense so I kept a long lookout on the internet and narrowed it down to a specific few models that I knew were good by reputation and could get could service for around where I live. Christmas eve last year (2004)I saw it on the internet at a dealer, got out my savings and headed down there. They asked me $15,000 (a Kubota M4500 w/ a good detachable loader properly fitted, 1400 hours and good rubber). I bought it for $12,500 including a changed seal in a front wheel, electrical system rewired and a new battery. Got it home and the clutch was slipping and it had a few leaks. Asked them to come and get it. They took it back in, changed the clutch and a seal leaking oil onto it, did some other things and presented me with a bill. Guess what the total was? It was off by $38, totalling $3,038. I told them to keep the tractor and give me my money back. We agreed I'd pay only the parts, at wholesale, not retail.

What kept me in the game was my friends advice. I got a good tractor, updated mechanically, the model I wanted, but more than anything I knew in advance what to expect regarding costs.

I say never let a salesman talk you into a new one. Use good old planning and ingenuity, stay focused on what you really need, be patient and not only will you find it, you have planned out something that will leave you feeling successful at the end of the day. Enjoy the process of hunting. Enjoy the tractor. My 2 cents. Good luck and have fun.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Billy NY

02-24-2006 11:39:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
We have been down this road too, I think it depends on the usage as well. We needed something reliable for chores at the horse farm, with a loader. We've got a 1980 Ford 3600 diesel as a second tractor. I think when weighing out the choices, the main factor was reliability, especially not being at the place, I was not there to work on anything, had a full time job several hundred miles in another direction, now I am involved and also have started making organic compost. With the work that we have something new or late model was justified, and it's outclassed with the amount of compost I'm currently making. We have a Challenger MT 265, with a quick tach loader 33 hp hydrostatic, and for what it cost, I really looked over the other options in older favorites in the utility/industrial class. The other aspect was the front axle drive, I could not get away with what I am doing without it I think.

In this case it boiled down to being affordable and the justified amount of work to do, it's nice to own something late model, but at home 3o miles away I have an older 850 Ford as a back up, it's got a lot of hours on it and I've had some work to do on it, new tires brakes, loader frame repair etc, but I've kept it going and probably have under $1500 in repairs to date, it's done everything I need it to do, I just take my time. I'd have preferred something a little heavier in the front end, and newer, as a loader finds a lot of use here. If you can buy an older utility right, either in good condition or something to good build from, you will eventually get it done and know what you have, and still have a decent tractor to handle a fair amount of work, without a payment, but if it's affordable and you find it would just be nice to have a late model, like some of my friends have, nice enclosed cab for the winter etc. really a matter of preference, both can work and be feasible, best to qualify ones self for what you need, can afford, and if looking at older ones, evaluating accurately what you are looking at, I agree, after dropping over $5000 on an older one and then needing to sink another $5000 into it, it could be annoying, but even then I also agree some them are worth fixing, especially if you really like the model, no matter what, you have to be satisfied with it at the end of the day. Loader work does have it's associated wear and tear, if there is constant loader use, you want to make sure you've got enough tractor to do the work, currently, I need somehting like a Caterpillar 920-930 size loader for what I am doing, I'v sheared some bolts, or the help has, not sure who did it and how. I grease the heck out of the loader, just spent $1000 on a complete dealer service, and do change oils on time, the new ones ain't cheap to run either it seems, and I take my time, until I can make the move to what I really need. Those Kubotas sure are priced competively, not sure how they compare, but we paid that for this 33HP Challenger, and it's held up well under moderate to heavy use, 700 hours now, it's a '03 but it's a still a lightweight as far as tractors go, forgot, fuel efficiency, thats a big plus. It also has a few design defects, darn air element loads up with soot from the exhaust, newer ones have a stack now ! Go figure, one humble opinion on it here I suppose.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
caseyc

02-24-2006 10:38:32




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 10:16:15  
well, look at it this way. that 40 year old tractor lasted 40 years. you buy it for $7000, spend $3000 to make it right if something major goes wrong and you've still only spent $10,000 compared to $20,000. a full size row crop will out work and out last a compact everytime. if there's been previous posts i'm sorry i havn't been following, do you need a compact? if so i guess you're out of reasons as to why not get the kubota!!!! they are good little machines.

casey in SD

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Nathan in Texas

02-24-2006 11:35:31




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to caseyc, 02-24-2006 10:38:32  
I really don't "need" anything. It is a "want". I have a good old 1945 Farmall M that works fine. I've just thought that it would be good to have a loader tractor for moving some dirt around and just being handy.

I've been looking for a while for a utility type tractor with a loader and was going to keep the M for brush clearing and stuff. I only have 42 acres and am not farming any of it, possibly might end up doing some hay down the road but nothing right now.

The search for an old smaller utility type tractor has been a pain. I really can't justify spending $20k on a brand new tractor though.

Oh well.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
colekicker

02-24-2006 11:47:36




Report to Moderator
 Re: Kubota L4400 with loader - $19,500 in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-24-2006 11:35:31  
Well, don't forget to look to Case IH and New Holland. Quite possibly, when you talk to a dealer that is trained on the compacts, you can see that these are built heavier and use more quality components than competetive lines. Like the lift linkage, the lower links are extendable on them and not on Kubota. Makes hooking up and implement much easier. If you are gonna go new, make sure you check out all your options.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy