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What's the best way to fill in a well?

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Todd in Mo

02-18-2006 13:55:32




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Got a cistern well that is 35 feet deep right in the way of where we want to put an addition on the house. We want to pour foundation in a month and I am concerned about settling if it is just filled with dirt.




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Dave Sherburne NY

02-19-2006 11:21:02




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
I would not use sand or gravel,either of these
will allow contaminants to seep into the water table. If you have access to clay, I would use that Around here we have what is commonly called hardpan Its the next layer after you take off
the topsoil, and is much the same as clay.



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Leland

02-19-2006 17:15:31




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Dave Sherburne NY, 02-19-2006 11:21:02  
I just filled one in and the State of ILL said to first pour in 5 gals of bleach to make fill sterile then 2-3 foot of pea gravel so you dont block flow of water vein ,then clay or sand to with in 3-4 feet from top then use dirt to top off



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paul

02-19-2006 10:52:10




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
If this is a _well_ of any type, most states require you seal it up properly, & likely only a licenced person can do so. My state is like that. Be very careful trying to ignore these rules, the state has well records going way back, and will require the job be done right - whatever it costs. Your new additon not withstanding..... I would _not_ avoid the rules here. Aside from 'more govt rules', an improperly sealed well allows all sorts of bad things to filter down into your & other people's aquafer. I'd not want to put a building over such a situation, just for thinking of others & t5he environment & all.

If it is a cistern _for sure_ then others have some good thoughts.

--->Paul

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Leland

02-19-2006 06:30:50




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
If you want a firm base use sand as all it takes to settle sand is a tamper or water ,this would be the cheapest and best route to go since you want to build on it .



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jim johnson

02-19-2006 06:03:16




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
I"ve found john deere"s are good for this



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Don L C

02-18-2006 20:28:38




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
Todd....try to think of a use for it.....mine was under the carport, so it had a concrete top.....I kncked a doorway into the basement, put a valt door on it....tore out the filter fall, did some patching, painted it with 3 coats dry ULG paint..... added a de humidifer out to a drain....I now dave a 24'x10" safe,dry storage room.....Don



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Areo

02-18-2006 17:46:54




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
Like aFORDable said, throw the fill into standing water. Even with dirt, filling this way will settle VERY little. I have filled several trenches this way and never had to refill. Can barely see where they are. Just make sure you keep water higher than the fill as you are filling it.

HTH

Areo



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aFORDable

02-18-2006 17:14:33




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
Gravel if it is what we call a cistern around here. A cistern here has about a 4ft. opening and was used to store water. Just dump the gravel in and it will chase the water out and settle like it should. I've filled 5 - 6 on our farm over the years and have never had to refill. If it has ever had trash thrown in it it will settle over the years.



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Bus Driver

02-18-2006 14:20:31




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
Regulations very widely from State to State. Some have huge penalties for doing it "wrong". Since you will have building inspector for your project, better ask local health dept. and do it exactly right for your area.



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LaVeryl

02-18-2006 14:12:36




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to Todd in Mo, 02-18-2006 13:55:32  
Is it a well or just a storage cistern? If it is a well with water in it you need to fill it with gravel to above water level and then put a foot or more of bentonite over it and then fill it with more gravel. If its just a storage hole just fill it with sand.



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buickanddeere

02-18-2006 22:20:58




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 Re: What's the best way to fill in a well? in reply to LaVeryl, 02-18-2006 14:12:36  
LaVeryl has the info correct here. The water table has to be sealed from surface run off.



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