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Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic?

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Nathan in Texas

02-13-2006 15:06:21




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So how much work would it be to convert a trip loader to be a fully hydraulic loader?

I'm looking at a International 340 utility with a trip loader and wondering what it would take to convert it.

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Thanks, Nathan




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John (MO)

02-14-2006 06:30:03




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-13-2006 15:06:21  
As the saying goes, with enough money and a big enough hammer you can do about anything you want. I gave $100. for my Freeman trip bucket loader and it works fine for me. I've sure got better things to do with $2000. To each his own.



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Nathan in Texas

02-14-2006 08:35:46




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to John (MO), 02-14-2006 06:30:03  
That's kind of what I was thinking.

Even $750 in parts and 30 hours of labor sounds like a lot to convert it.

I might could do it a little cheaper with just 1 cylinder like the U34 loader has.

I think I will just keep looking.

Thanks a lot for the input.

Nathan



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Catskill Pete

02-13-2006 20:39:03




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-13-2006 15:06:21  
I don't think judging from that picture that yours would be that difficult to add a cylinder to. It looks very similar to a Mcormick U34 bucket that is hydraulic. Thats what is on my 340. If you can find a good picture of a U34 it would help figuring out how to set up a cylinder.



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Catskill Pete

02-13-2006 21:47:05




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Catskill Pete, 02-13-2006 20:39:03  
I did a little net surfing and found pics of the Mc U34 bucket. Never had much luck posting pics, so if you E-mail me I will send the pics to you.



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Frank (N.Mi.)

02-13-2006 16:16:30




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-13-2006 15:06:21  
I did the one on my 8n. It took around $750 and at least 30 hrs spent on weekends. What the guys said. You (or someone) will be welding quite a bit. I bought cylinders and hoses/fittings from Northern Tool. I had to put two cylinders on my bucket because of my loader configuration. I do have down pressure, it is nice but it is by no means an excavator and it is not meant to be. My cylinders and some of the hoses were leaking so I decided that was reason enough to modernize :) I am very happy with the results

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

02-13-2006 15:36:10




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-13-2006 15:06:21  
First, it's expensive to buy the cylinders, hoses, and plumbing. There's little point in not adding down pressure when doing the upgrade, so that will most likely mean three cylinders.

The trip bucket's geometry may prove demanding when you try to fit the dump cylinder. Everything on the loader will need to be stiffened to accomodate the new stresses, so allow for lots of welded support pieces.

When finished it's worth it, but in the case of my MF35 it took twenty hours of fabrication and about $2000 CDN to upgrade an old Freeman loader to fully hydraulic status.

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old

02-13-2006 15:26:15




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 Re: Converting trip loader to fully hydraulic? in reply to Nathan in Texas, 02-13-2006 15:06:21  
Drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a picture of one we did. Its not all that hard to do but it is a pain in the but. I have found that long cylinders make it easier then tring to do it with say a 2 foot cylinder.



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