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Buying a 435 Deere

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Brian from oswe

02-06-2006 12:39:42

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Thinking about buying a 435 john deere. What is a reasonable price for a working condition 435? I believe it to be around 3500-4000 dollars. Also what does a 2-53 detroit sound like? What is a common engine problem? Thanks for the help

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Jerry/MT

02-07-2006 11:24:47

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

I used to have one (Serial # 435006) and it was a great little tractor. It was also my first tractor.My only complaint was it was hard to start if the temperature got below 40F even with a dipstick heater. The GM 2-53 was easy on fuel and it was a pretty heavy machine and did all I asked of it. I bought it in 1985 for $2200 and sold it in 1991 for $3200 and all I did to it was replace the oil pressure switch that allowed the hour meter to work and change the oil and filter every 50 hrs. They're a relaltively rare tractor.I believe only about 4000 were built in 1959 and 1960. The Tractor Blue Book lists a high retail price of $4840 for a 1960 model and $4610 for a 1959 model but there 's a lot of variation about these average prices based on the condition and the rarity factor. As far as a working machine is concerned, I think a MF 35D is a better value for the dollar. There is no doubt that the JD 435D would be a prize for a collector because of it's use of the GM 2-53 and it's rarity. Just my two cents.

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buickanddeere

02-06-2006 18:32:09

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

Depends if it has the round muffler or the updated oval muffler. The original S engine sounds different than the N series update. A 435 is worth at least as much as a 320 in similar condition. What options are on the tractor, what is the serial # ? The nose cone is made out of "unatainium". The cheapest used I've ever seen was $900.00US. An engine rebuild needs the 21 to 1 compression N sleeves and pistons & N35 injectors. Don't go bigger unless the spray cooling rods are installed. The blower should have the end plates machined to fit the updated oil seal kit. The springs for both the cam followers and valve springs have been improved with updates. Pull the three bolt cover from the back of the trans which is just above the pto shaft. Look for a worn pinion gear. If it's chewed Deere has new updated R&P gears. They are also the same gears for the early 1010 to serial number 31,000. Use the low speed six tooth pinion set. Check the front "C" shaped front axle casting. As the original "S" engine was not a cold weather starter. And many owners seemed to have no idea what a block heater was. However they could get real keen with a can of ether and a logging chain. If they didn't wreck the engine with ether. They would throw the chain around an end of the front axle, give her a yank and the dumb *sses would bust the casting. The largest CCA vibration resistant battery and an oversized Delco starter will improve starting. Mine will fire in about two-three rotations at 25F without a block heater. Amsoil synthetic 30W engine oil doesn't get ultra thick in the cold either.

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730 virgil

02-06-2006 18:12:04

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

if you buy it buy airforce tpye ear protection i ran rock crusher powered by 6-71 was LOUD !

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Stan - Florida

02-06-2006 15:39:34

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

An article in a reputable John Deere colletor's magazine a few years ago said the 435 "sounds like a chainsaw on steroids". The author of that article is found on here from time to time...maybe he'll chime in on this topic.

They are unique sounding, for sure. Go for it if you can get it for the money you're talking about.

Stan

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Evan350

02-06-2006 13:36:41

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

I don't have experience with the JD 435 per se, but the Detroit x-53 motors are still pretty common and you can still get parts for it at Detroit-Allison affiliated truck engine shops. The 4-53 was used in buses in the 1960's, so think of how an older diesel bus sounds.

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720Deere

02-06-2006 13:34:01

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Re: Buying a 435 Deere in reply to Brian from oswego, 02-06-2006 12:39:42

Brian,

If you find a working condition 435 for $3500, you got a steal! With good sheet metal (very important as it is hard to find replacements) and very few options, they are bringing in the $6000 range on the east coast.

My uncle bought one last year with the setback front axle, live pto, 5 speed and perfect tin for $8500 and most people around here would agree that was a fair price for the shape it's in. With a little paint and good rubber I've seen them sell for over $14,000.

A 2-53 sounds like a Detroit! A little more weedeater sounding than the bark of 6-71, but still a distinguishing sound. As far as engine problems, they are pretty reliable. They're not usally good cold weather starters, but otherwise stong little engines.

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