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Chasmc42

04-04-2006 18:28:34




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What is the best pto system to run a bushog? Im looking for a used tractor and noticed "live pto's" and "Independent hydrolic pto's". Its all greek to me, the first time tractor owner!




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old

04-04-2006 19:46:26




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 Re: pto in reply to Chasmc42, 04-04-2006 18:28:34  
The best system to have will be one that when you puch the clutch down the PTO keeps working and also the hyds. Which in simple terms is live PTO and hyds. Olivers have had that set up for years, shoot they where one of the first to have that. Some of the Farmalls like the 300 and up have that. Fords depending on which ones had live hyds but only a few had live PTO of in there case 2 stage clutch. Ford di have the first 3 point set up sort of but had trouble because fugison was who came up with it.

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Russ from MN

04-04-2006 19:05:01




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 Re: pto in reply to Chasmc42, 04-04-2006 18:28:34  
I like live PTO the best, but non-live can work ok with an over running clutch installed in the drive-line. I have used our JD M without one and it takes a while to get everything stopped! Live PTO and live hydraulics (independent) are two different things.



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MikeinKy

04-04-2006 19:23:13




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 Re: pto in reply to Russ from MN, 04-04-2006 19:05:01  
Most people refer to independent PTO as one in which you can engage or disengage the PTO by moving a lever at any time. And a live PTO in which you must push the clutch pedal down to engage the PTO and when it is engaged you push the clutch pedal about halfway to stop the tractor and all the way down stops both the PTO and the tractor. On some tractors, my Massey Ferguson 135, the pedal all the way down stops both the PTO and lift. Both of these are considered "live PTO'S". It depends on who is talking, what they mean. If you don't have a live PTO, you have a transmission driven PTO on a lot of the older tractors, where the PTO only turns when the clutch is out, by all means get an over running clutch. If you have a bushhog or something with a lot of momentum and try to stop, it will push the tractor until it runs out of momentum or you run into something. Please don't ask how I know.

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Aaron Ford

04-04-2006 20:05:30




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 Re: pto in reply to MikeinKy, 04-04-2006 19:23:13  
Even if you do get a live PTO, get an overunning clutch. My father and stepfather both pulled the same stunt 5 years apart. They jumped off the tractor while the brushhog was still spinning. Letting off the clutch reengaged the PTO, pushing the drive wheels and the tractor left. The first time it was stopped by three little pine trees on the edge of gone ( I mean GONE). The second time it was stopped by a brand new Chevy truck. An over running clutch would have prevented both runaways.

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