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Contental engine carb problem.. please help.

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Dave in WV

01-05-2006 08:05:57




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Hello Tractor people,

I was told you people might be able to help
me with a problem i have with a old forklift.
it has a engine thats a contental 4 cyc flathead
with numbers F4162 214 75561 casted on it. it was
running on propane, but i took a gasoline carb
off a junked gas welder that had a simular engine on it, the carb is a Marvel schebler
TSX-514 S-9790 G80 I took it apart and cleaned it. but now i need to know where to adjust the
brass air needle adjustment to, does anyone
know ?? any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Dave.

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NorminN.B.

01-05-2006 12:48:00




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 Re: Contental engine carb problem.. please help. in reply to Dave in WV, 01-05-2006 08:05:57  
Hi, Dave, I've got the spec's for a TSX-903 say's Idle mixture--1-1/8 turns open . High speed --2-1/2 turns open. Not the same carb, but should get you going. Hope this helps. Norm..... ....



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RustyFarmall

01-05-2006 12:58:03




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 Re: Contental engine carb problem.. please help. in reply to NorminN.B., 01-05-2006 12:48:00  
Normin, I've rebuilt a couple of tsx-33s, the specs you mentioned sound very similar to the specs for the 33s, so I'm guessing that those specs will at least get the 903 in the ball park.



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steve from mo - dangit!

01-05-2006 11:45:59




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 Displacement would help. in reply to Dave in WV, 01-05-2006 08:05:57  
That idea of disconnecting three spark plugs sounds odd. If you look around this web site you will likely find a tractor that used that carb. Armed with that information, you could probably find the carb adjustments. Some John Deere 2 cylinder tractors used th Marvel Schebler carbs.

To get this engine running, you will likely make the first set of adjustments on a cold engine and then readjust after it warms up. As a general rule, you start with the mixture screws about 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 turns from bottomed out. I don't know if you have a separate idle mixture screw or not. Don't bottom the screws with a lot of muscle or you'll put a groove in the needle valve.

Adjust the idle mixture screw for smoothest running - too lean/screw too far in and the engine starts to die - too rich/screw too far out and you will get kind of a "missing" sound.

Then adjust the idle stop screw for a low but smooth idle, and readjust the idle mixture screw.

For the high-speed mixture, use full throttle up to get the engine's highest idle speed. Adjust the load mixture screw the same way as the idle mix screw, except there won't be an idle stop to mess with.

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Aaron Ford

01-05-2006 08:55:08




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 Re: Contental engine carb problem.. please help. in reply to Dave in WV, 01-05-2006 08:05:57  
Okay, this isn't perfect, but this is how my IT manual shows it:

Disconnect governor/throttle linkage and adjust idle screw to max rpm. Adjust idle back down to 500 rpm via throttle stop screw. Reconnect throttle linkage, then adjust power jet by disconnecting three plug wires to simulate load, then adjust to best sound.

I did this on my mf65 and came up with dismal results, hope it works better for you. I may have missed something.

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