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chuck t

01-03-2006 16:26:39




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I have aquired some 17' telephone poles that I plan to use for a 24 long and 12 deep shed for my old tractor and 3 pt. implements. I have not built anything like this. In central Missouri, how deep do the poles need to be? If I do a straight tin roof (no gable), what is the minimum slope I need? Will I be satisfied if the back is 8 feet tall and the front 10ft?. 12ft.? It will be on a slight hill that drops 1-2 feet back to front. Any other advice? Any plans on the web?

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CLW

01-03-2006 23:18:20




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 16:26:39  
chuck, I set poles for about 12 years for the phone co. 25 ft. was as short as we used and in most cases they were set 5 ft. deep. You will not need to go that deep since they will be braceing each other. Still 4 ft. would give you 13 ft. out of the ground. Kevin gives good advice in his reply. We had sidewalks poured around some and the life of the pold was cut to 12-15 years becouse it would rot at the base. One thing you want to check if you use a chainsaw is to check for nails. If the poles were used in town they will have nails where people have put signs on them. One will do in a chain in 1/2 a second.
CLW

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paul

01-03-2006 23:09:54




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 16:26:39  
You will regret 8 foot high only, and you will really regret only 12 feet deep. Too small before you start. If you aren't going 16 feet deep, why bother? Buildings last for decades, your current equipment can change by next year - or if not change, add to..... ;)

You got 17 foot poles, use them. 4 foot deep at least, use them for the front as is, cut a couple feet off the back ones, and make the shed deep enough to put a tractor with implement in it, and you will have something.

--->Paul

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ben brown

01-03-2006 19:36:32




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 16:26:39  
a friend of mine used telephone pols or ele. not sure whitch anyway he took them to a small saw mill and had them cut to 6x6 was a lot easer to work with as it gave him flat sides. he spent time making sure ther was no medeal nails in them with a medeal detector and told the guy he would replace his banbs on his saw if he hit any medeal work good and solid pols.



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old

01-03-2006 17:35:45




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 16:26:39  
What part of Missouri?? I'm also in Missouri. Around here we put posts in at least 18 inches but 24-36 inches would be better since your useing telephone poles and they are heavy. You will find that 12 foot on the high side will work for most things but can be low for somethings depending on what you have. I just built a new pole shed this fall for a few of my tractors and its 14 foot tall at the high side and 10 foot on the low side. If your below I-70 snow loads aren't very bad but if upbove I-70 they get worse.

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chuck t

01-03-2006 17:54:56




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to old, 01-03-2006 17:35:45  
Callaway Co., just east of Auxvasse



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old

01-03-2006 18:00:48




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 17:54:56  
Ok so your up close to the lonney been at Fulton then. Drop me an e-mail and I'll send you a picture or 2 of my shed. It might or might not help give you some ideas.



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wdtom

01-03-2006 17:21:31




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to chuck t, 01-03-2006 16:26:39  
This past summer I put up a 3 stall car port. 20'x30'. It has a tin roof, 20' long by 3' wide sections. I have 1" per ft pitch and so far it is fine.



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Kevin (FL)

01-03-2006 19:42:20




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to wdtom, 01-03-2006 17:21:31  
Chuck,

I've built a few pole barns in the south and we don't have the snow problem down here but we do get our share of hurricanes. I bury the poles at least 5 feet, six feet if I can. Holes are dug deeper than needed and I pile in broken bricks, rocks or oyster shells for the first foot or two in the bottom of the hole. This provides a good "bedrock" for the poles to support weight better and it also drains off water too. Poles are spaced on 8' centers, top bands are doubled 2x10's, through-bolted with 1/2 galvanized bolts. We build our own trusses with 2x6 around the perimeter and 2x4's for the bracing. Trusses are spaced on four foot centers and then we install 2x4's on edge on 18" centers for the tin. You probably would have to go with 2 foot centers because of snow loads, in which case you could probably get away with regular 2x4 trusses. We use 2x6's for the lower, middle and upper band and then use either treated T-111 siding or 1x12 cypress or pine in a board and batten arrangement (vertically). All structure is treated down here because of the termites both ground and airborne type. Lower trim piece is a beveled 2x4 to receive the bottom of the siding--also use a galvanized drip edge "z" shape. Everything is strapped and clipped and it makes for a pretty strong building. We're building a 28 x 32 (between hurricanes) and after that one is done we'll be doing a 40x60. It helps to be able to get the poles for free as we can down here--power company gives them away. On top of that the hurricanes have produced a "bumper crop" of poles laying along the roads. Just winch 'em up on the trailer and go....

Most of our barns have gravel or brick floors because of zoning laws (no permit req'd if no slab), but concrete is nice if you can afford it. I wouldn't advise pouring concrete around the poles though--it promotes rot. If you must have a slab, build your form just inside the poles, so there's a 2x thickness between the slab and the poles. Many folks will disagree with that suggestion but I've seen more rotted poles than I care to count--when concrete is poured around them...

On the roof arrangement, I always like a higher ceiling for adding hoists and such and if you set the trusses up right, you can end up with a second deck storage area or hay loft--that all depends on what you need for extra space or ceiling height. If you go with a sloped/flat roof, then you might consider using angle iron trusses--lots of folks using them down here but I haven't priced them.

Hope not too many words and something said here you can use...Good luck with the job and be careful when lifting the poles in place...

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Kelly Campbell

01-04-2006 13:22:06




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 Re: tractor shed in reply to Kevin (FL), 01-03-2006 19:42:20  
Happend upon your post, very good information...it'll really help when I go to build two run in sheds this spring!

Thanks again,

Kelly Campbell



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