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old

12-20-2005 11:58:21

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Hauled in an old car body today to the scrappers. Sitting in one pile of stuff was an Allis WD or one like that. Hood was gone but frame and engine block was there. Also a good rear tire on a good spin out rim. There was also an 8N ford there also. Asked about buying them and they told me once its on there lot it has to go out as scrap and can not be had. Boy I wish I could sit there and watch for things like that coming in.

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Dave NE IA

12-23-2005 18:50:56

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Must tell a better story or shut up right? Well my nephew works for Green Giant, and they bought a small cannery in MN near his home town that in the past had many JD tractors. The day before his two week vacation he found a pallet of JD new carburators for the 2 cylinders, and a pallot of new Mags, he told the crew not to let anyone so much as breath on those two pallets. When he got back they were no where to be found and was told they went to a junk yard in Iowa, and they named the junk yard--so happens the junk yard was 5 hrs away--seemed odd, but better yet it was fifteen miles from his grandparents. That was five years ago and not a trace, or a straight answer of any kind. I know some of the guys at the scrap yard, and no one knows of any such event. Can you imagine how popular he or I could have been---move over Bill Gates. Dave NE IA

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gary case

12-21-2005 10:15:47

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

i'm with ya on that old. but what irks my a.. is when theres this tractor or tractors sitting out in the field,rotting.u ask and they etheir don't answer the door or are going to get as much as the tractors worth ,restored. i watched this little case loader sitting in back of a barn and could see it wasn't being used.watched it for two years every monday. stopped in asked if he were interested in selling, he just looked at me and said no, i'm gonna feed my cows with it.still sittin there. oh well gary

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Nolan

12-21-2005 04:40:25

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Yep. Equally is when kin folk or friends scrap something special and only mention it to you after the fact.

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Jim.UT...another thing

12-21-2005 08:14:43

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Nolan, 12-21-2005 04:40:25

Oooh, you had to remind me!

My granddad had a 2N with a 6 cylinder Funk conversion. My aunt wound up with it, which is fine. But then she traded it in on a new chinese tractor. I've tried to track it down, but the dealer is no longer in business.

I tracked down the owner of the dealership and he remembers the tractor. He even gave me information on the buyer. It was sold on a contract basis: $500 down and $100/month. The guy disappeared and the dealer never saw a dime after the $500 down payment. I have addresses for the thief but they are bogus.

My aunt hated the tractor and said the way to find it is to listen carefully for someone cursing loudly. That person will likely be the owner of the tractor!

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730 virgil

12-21-2005 14:32:54

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Jim.UT...another thing, 12-21-2005 08:14:43

i was told about a yakama ? john deere plow disc and cultivator for a john deere a tractor by the time i tracked the guy down that owned them he had taken them to scraper this was after telling several people he had the stuff to sell . i have been told these implements didn't work out very well

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Redmud

12-20-2005 23:31:22

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

My brother makes the rounds of scrap yards looking for pilfered oil field equipment, he has found many pilfered items over the years, along with some really nice stuff that you wouldn't think people would sell for scrap. One of which is an original Sharps 50-110 that he paid 90 cents for. He shoots the old Sharps just about every weekend.

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Retraction

12-21-2005 03:51:30

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Redmud, 12-20-2005 23:31:22

It's not a 50-110, it's a 50-70.
Redmud:

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dhermesc

12-21-2005 05:54:16

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Retraction, 12-21-2005 03:51:30

Sharps produced rifles that chambered varying cartridges including: 45-70, 45-90, 45-110, 50-70, 50-90, and 50-110.

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DRL

12-20-2005 19:25:58

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Last I knew, a tractor salvage yard in Butler, MO had the corner on the tractors and equipment going to the Ft. Scott yard. Austin Salvage is the name, I believe.

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1206SWMO

12-21-2005 15:34:57

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to DRL, 12-20-2005 19:25:58

I have known the Austins for many years and was to their place just last Friday.They have saved a few items out of the Ft Scott,KS yard but like everyone else they are no longer allowed to buy anything there.

It all gets scrapped now!!What a shame!

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old

12-20-2005 20:14:47

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to DRL, 12-20-2005 19:25:58

This place is a scrap iron place and takes in any thing metal.

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1206SWMO

12-20-2005 18:48:37

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

The junk yard at Ft Scott,KS will no longer sell stuff thats brought in.You cant even look around.They used to sell for 10 cents a lb,then 15 cents,but now will longer will sell anything.

A decent LA Case tractor and 35 Massey SP combine will be junked soon.In the past 3 years they have junked a complete MD Farmall,TD-9 IH Crawler,and gobs more.

A friend named off a list a mile long of tractors,combines,plows,trucks,etc that they have junked in the past 2-3 years.Most were good for parts and some could have been restored.

People are stupid to sell collectable stuff for $70 a ton.People sell them 100 lb IH suitcase weights that pullers will pay $35-50 each for.

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old

12-20-2005 20:17:56

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to 1206SWMO, 12-20-2005 18:48:37

I agree with you and I do all I can to stop them from being scrapped but I can't do much. In my area theres 2 radio station with ad programs and I call in off and on looking for dead tractors and do at times get a few calls. And have even picked up a few that way.

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37 chief

12-20-2005 15:21:03

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

When my Dad was alive we would go to the city dump around lunch time when the workers were at lunch after we dumped our trash Dad would look for scrap iron. One time the workers said we had to stop that. On another time at the dump we saw the workers collecting scrap iron for them selves. The workers may have their own outlet for the tractors. Stan

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d-c-741

12-20-2005 14:37:33

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Well I have the same problem,I ask A resonable Price For tractors and equipment we no longer need or use ,I have tryied to e-bay this equipment / Tractors, as well as parts of them ]1 was a group of parts of a SC Case tractor,The last of them a running out, right now ! NO BIDs = My dump truck for Scrap no the next Load, Hey They Got's The Money and I am Going to Take There MONEY. I am going to try to sell it once . You guys can buy mine if you want to save old tractors, whole or as they come back from China. SORRY BUT I CAN"T EAT SCRAP IRON, BUT FOOD I CAN!!! Hey I am a Farmer And hate to do this but $$$$$$$ Talks

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TomHath

12-20-2005 14:35:10

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

I wouldn't blame the scrapyard so much as the people bringing itmes in that they could sell for more elsewhere.

It seems reasonable to me that the scrapyard doesn't want their employees distracted by people coming around trying to buy stuff, taking the time to pull things apart, risking injury, keeping track of receipts, etc. That's not the business they are in.

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Mydeere

12-20-2005 13:17:29

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

May sound silly but alot of these corporations policies are dictated by thier lawyers. I wouldn't be surprised if they were worried about a law suit from somebody being injuried by an old piece of equipment without much in the way of safeties. The way society is today, some people will sue over just about anything, even thier own stupidity.

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12-22-2005 16:27:56

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Mydeere, 12-20-2005 13:17:29

Legal hassles probable- Madison, Wi area scrap yard that I used to get steel pieces for welding repairs, trailer making had to stop sales couple years back after state said they might be taken to court for damages if accident happened. They were called into court on a couple cases for auto parts salvaged instead of scrapped so no sales for that either anymore, no license for retail sales/parts salvage. Check if state laws on licensing for retail sales apply to yard- not worth the risk to make unlawful sale. RN.

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Nebraska Cowman

12-20-2005 13:06:21

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Probably one of those outfits that's owned by outside corperation and run by hired help. Too much chance for the help to sell off stuff and pocket the money. I'd try to find out who is hauling in and deal with them directly.

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old

12-20-2005 13:52:38

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-20-2005 13:06:21

Already tried that, no luck. Oh well I guess I need to start putting the word out again LOL

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Dave H (MI)

12-20-2005 12:31:25

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Hey Rich, if they wouldn't sell them there must be something wrong. Somebody else already got the concession on used tractors there no doubt.
I would check back again and find a different person and see what they sez....

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old

12-20-2005 12:33:17

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Dave H (MI), 12-20-2005 12:31:25

From what I was told its a corperation thing and no matter who you are if its there for scrap its will go out just that way no ? asked

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doogdoog

12-20-2005 12:58:41

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 12:33:17

Aloha, Yeah, somebody must have the in's on that. Those people are not dummmies and if they can get a better price, off it goes. It must go to some recycling site where they sell off the parts.

Mahalo,
doogdoog

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old

12-20-2005 13:54:14

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to doogdoog, 12-20-2005 12:58:41

Nope I have seen the stuff get cut up right on site so it will fit in there trucks. They don't care what it is it gets cut up.

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tlak

12-20-2005 12:19:30

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Don't know why they wouldn't sell it. Don't know the current prices, but here they give you say a nickel a pound going in and charge you a quarter a pound going out.

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Mike M

12-20-2005 12:05:19

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

Yea you know that the scrap doesn't pay squat. I can't figure out why these junk haulers take tractors in there ? At least in my area one guy was able to save an old Reed (?) oil field engine he was able to buy it back out of the junk yard. Once was a JD 840 model scraped there too. At least I caught wind of it and was able to tell some of my tractor buddies and they were able to buy some useable parts back off of it.

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old

12-20-2005 12:36:31

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Mike M, 12-20-2005 12:05:19

I think the problem with them is there not a junk yard but a metals dealer and thats why they will not resale once they have something.

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Ray

12-20-2005 12:04:53

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 11:58:21

I think they were pulling your leg,it's there's to sell if they want to.I've bought several tractors that way over the years.

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old

12-20-2005 12:38:54

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Ray, 12-20-2005 12:04:53

This place is one of those big companys with yards all over Missouri, Kansas and Arkansas, and I think thats why they will not resale.

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Ray

12-20-2005 14:38:21

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to old, 12-20-2005 12:38:54

A big company took over a local scrap yard and they won't even let you in to look around anymore.A local car junkyard does this to,you have to be with an employee to be on there property.

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coup

12-22-2005 02:52:37

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Re: Made me sick to see them. in reply to Ray, 12-20-2005 14:38:21

they no some of the scrap is stolen and they don't want mixed up in that....

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