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Wayne Nelson

12-16-2005 08:09:36




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Is it ok to use "multi-viscosity oil" in Farmall's(130, 140, Super A)?




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sammy the RED

12-16-2005 11:06:43




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to Wayne Nelson, 12-16-2005 08:09:36  
Yes. Use a quality brand name 10-30 or 15-40.

Do not use 10-40.



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dieselade

12-16-2005 12:12:37




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to sammy the RED, 12-16-2005 11:06:43  
whats wrong with 10-40 oil nowadays. we used to use it all the time in the gass engines back in the 60`s and 70`s



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RN

12-16-2005 15:54:03




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to dieselade, 12-16-2005 12:12:37  
10-40? GM had a bulletin out a few years back- problem was 'carmelizing' of the viscosity index improver additive caused sticking rings at higher temperatures needed for pollution control. Sticking ring led to blowby and failure of some pollution tests. This was on smaller car engines running hot and fast. 10-30 had less VI additive so didn't stick rings as quick, flowed better to help flush oil in rings, gave better mileage ratings on EPA tests. Old gas tractor (50s) engines probably no concern, Diesels yes-use 15-40 CD spec for diesels if useing multivis, was what was used in JD4440s during picking time Wi fall as alternative to 30wt, better cold flow on startup. IHC/case/NH has a 10-30 low ash for cold weather recommended for the old ones to replace 10wt- working tractor doing heavy snow plow work, etc. RN.

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JT

12-16-2005 09:55:00




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to Wayne Nelson, 12-16-2005 08:09:36  
I use 15w40 rotella in all my tractors, year round. Even though you may not put a lot of hours on a tractor, you need to change the oil at least once a year. You get a lot of contaminants in the oil from use and you need to get it changed at least yearly to get all that out. Oil is cheap at $15.00 a year to increase the life of any engine.



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Lumpy

12-16-2005 08:23:59




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to Wayne Nelson, 12-16-2005 08:09:36  
I run 15-40w farm duty in all my ford tractors-- 8n, 600, 861. Haven't had any problems. My thing was I ran 30w in the summer and 10w in the winter. The problem was I never really put that many hours on them to change oil all the time. So I change them every 2 years or when it looks like its getting dirty. Lets face it, my 8n MIGHT get 10 hours on it a year, so is it really worth changing it... NO! Just my .02

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Aaron Ford

12-17-2005 09:41:26




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to Lumpy, 12-16-2005 08:23:59  
I am redoing an old Massey 65 and so far have found 5 gallons of water in the case, 1 quart of water in each planetary, and another pint in the oil bath air cleaner. This tractor has not been serviced for a few years, but this seems excessive. If the tractor is left outside, I would say 2 years is a bit long. Shift boots, breathers, and vents have a nasty way of collecting water.



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kelton dunn

12-16-2005 09:45:16




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to Lumpy, 12-16-2005 08:23:59  
Does motor oil age in the crankcase? If actual use is the key perhaps you are still over changing.



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Lumpy

12-16-2005 11:16:02




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 Re: Multi-Viscosity Oil in reply to kelton dunn, 12-16-2005 09:45:16  
Kelton, You have a very good point. I probably still change it too often in the 8n. I really don't work that tractor at all. I go down the country roads in 4th at about 3/4 throttle and it serves as parade duty. Thats it. 600 does more work and the 861 has the loader and snow chores, but still only put 50 hours on it at most.



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