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Bill in Ala

12-10-2005 15:58:54




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Just what makes a Farmall a Wheatland model?




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Michael Halsall

12-26-2005 03:46:42




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
There was no Farmall (rowcrop) in the "40" range. 1940's W-4 = Farmall H W-6 = Farmall M and T-6 crawler WD-6 = Farmall MD and TD-6 crawler W-9 T-9 crawler WD-9 TD-9 crawler No Farmall (rowcrop) version of "9" Series tractors. 1950's Super W-4 / H Super W-6 / M Super WD-6 / M Super W6-TA / MTA Super WD-9 300 Utility / Farmall 300 350 Utility / Farmall 350 There was a special 350 Utility "Wheatlander" version made for the Canadian market. W-400 / Farmall 400 W-450 / Farmall 450 600 650. The 600/650 being first and second updates of the Super WD-9.
Hope that helps! Regards from Michael Halsall

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W4

12-11-2005 08:34:14




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
I dont know what was in the mind of the ones that came up with the designation of the term Wheatland, but everyone ought to drive one some day!!The pto and belt pully could be added at any time off a Farmall H or M.W4



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kyhayman

12-11-2005 07:41:38




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
As a follow up, in all brands, when I have seen the term wheatland or wheatland special it referred to standard tread, no PTO and no 3PH.



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Don Wadge

12-10-2005 21:11:19




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
No such thing as a Wheatland Farmall. I know what you mean but none of them ever carried the Farmall name. They were made by the same company that made Farmall but were McCormick, McCormick Deering, or International mostly depending on the period of the tractor.



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TomHath

12-10-2005 17:32:22




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
I don't know if it's necessarily a Wheatland feature, but they usually only have a drawbar, no fasthitch or 3pt.



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RN

12-10-2005 16:23:33




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
IHC 'Farmall' is row crop cultivation capable, W 'Wheatland' is not designed with cultivating tall crops intended. W generally lower to ground, non-adjustable track wide frontends. No wide adjust/sliding back axle. Compare W4 to H for featured examples. RN



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Nebraska Cowman

12-10-2005 16:20:31




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bill in Ala, 12-10-2005 15:58:54  
The wheatland models generaly had the seat rearward and lower along with large fenders and a non-adjustable wide-front axle. But then they were no longer "Farmalls"



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Bob/Ont

12-10-2005 18:51:11




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-10-2005 16:20:31  
I think the W means Wheel rather than Wheatland. Back in the days of the 10-20 they also made the 10-20 TrackTracTor. When the W Wheel 30's and 40's came out they also made the T30's and T40's on Tracks. The Farmalls where always refered to as RowCrops around here. My thoughts on the subject anyway.
Later Bob



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Don Wadge

12-10-2005 21:23:48




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bob/Ont, 12-10-2005 18:51:11  
I never heard that explanation before but I would tend to think there is some merit to the argument. It is really only in the later years that I have heard them referred to as Wheatland tractors. Years ago they were called "standards" as in standard tread. The first I heard of them as "Wheatland" was whem IHC brought out the 460 as a special model called "Wheatland Special". To me the reference to Wheatland as a design/style designation has come into use more with the tractor hobby simply because it provides an easy descriptive term when referring to that type of tractor. I'm from an area where the wheatland/"standard" style was predominate so I may not know what they were called in the areas where "row-crop" tractors (IHC H, M; JD A, B, G, etc.) dominated. Maybe we could hear from the guys (like me) that remember from say 1955 or prior.

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williamf

12-11-2005 04:38:05




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Don Wadge, 12-10-2005 21:23:48  
I'm one such. I worked at my grandfather's IH dealer ship starting around '61 or 2 here in South Carolina. All row-crop tractors here. In fact, to this day I have never seen an IH Wheatland model "in the flesh." To us, they were all "Tractors," we didn't know there was another kind.
Wm



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edchainsaw

12-10-2005 18:43:26




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 12-10-2005 16:20:31  
they are right on the money... there are no such thing as wheatland Farmalls

they are International standard treads and McCormick Farmalls from what I have seen on the old liturature and books.



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edchainsaw

12-11-2005 19:09:28




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to edchainsaw, 12-10-2005 18:43:26  
I know that W is wheel
and T is track..

F was farmall


you had W20's ( updated 10-20) T20 F20

example WD45 ( was a W45 diesel version)
or Wk40



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Bob/Ont

12-12-2005 06:28:02




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to edchainsaw, 12-11-2005 19:09:28  
Never saw a W20 but the W30 was an upgraded 10-20. There where a couple of smaller W's too, maybe 12 and 14.
Later Bob



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Michael Halsall

12-26-2005 21:20:41




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 Re: Wheatland Farmalls in reply to Bob/Ont, 12-12-2005 06:28:02  
The 1930's IHC tractor range looked like this. FARMALL STANDARD TRACTRACTOR -TREAD (Crawler) 15-30(22-36) 10-20 10-20 crawler Regular F-12 W-12 F-14 W-14 F-20 T-20 crawler F-30 W-30 T-35 crawler TD-35 crawler W-40 T-40 crawler WD-40 TD-40 crawler
The "30" range used an uprated version of the "10-20" engine.
The "40" range had no row-crop model Regards from Michael Halsall

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