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Transfer Pump on Diesel

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Wi Craig

12-08-2005 13:31:39




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Way OT but really could use soom help. My son has a 1 ton 1999 Dodge w/dump. He"s told that the fuel trasfer pump is bad and will need to be replaced. Not too sure where this pump even is. Is this just a fuel pump located in the tank? If it is, wouldn"t I be able to raise the dump and replace fron the top side of the tank? Any help would be appreciated. The dealer quoted $960 to replace it. Ouch. Need the truck for plowing tonight. Craig

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Wi Jason

12-10-2005 07:55:02




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
I want to thank you all for answering the question that my father asked while i was out trying to get prep. for the long night snow plowing. The dealer says that i need to put in the new conversion kit. Or is it easier to just replace the factory transfer pump? Update: Well iam sure the problem didnt go away but my driver for that truck reported back that it didnt act up. But as soon as the snow slows down a bit here, I will take a look at it and see if it is somthing that i can take care of. Or if it is something i need to take in.

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Luke S

12-09-2005 06:15:50




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
I work at my family's Dodge dealership. Almost everytime we replace a lift pump the injection pump soon follow's. The VP-44 pump did not like fuel pressure that was too low or too high. Some people say to put a pusher pump on it, but that can have the oposite affect. Too much pressure is not good for it either.



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colekicker

12-09-2005 08:37:12




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Luke S, 12-09-2005 06:15:50  
When installing a pusher pump, you have to hook it up so it comes on with oil pressure. Doing this prevents hard starting. So long as you aren't putting a crazy amount of pressure up, the vp44 should be fine. It is no uncommon to have the pusher and lift pump be putting together 18 psi at the vp44.



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colekicker

12-08-2005 16:05:28




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
This is not hard to do and it is not a $960 job. Its on the left side of the block. Remove the fuel filter housing so you can get down to it. Pretty simple job. Yes, it is a problem with the 98.5 to 2002s. It was just a necessary evil for emissions. To read more about this, go to dieseltruckresource.com There are lots of sharp cookies on there. After you do replace the lift pump, I would recommend putting in a fuel pressure gauge. This should at least give you warning if the pump does start to go.
I got 146,000 miles out of mine. Best advice is to keep the fuel filter clean and use clean fuel. So long as you pay attention, then you should have to worry about the vp44.

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Mike S 806/H

12-08-2005 14:20:12




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
The electric pump should push fuel not pull it, I was told to mount the fuel pump close to the tank and lower then the tank. The pump is a Carter you can buy them at Summit Racing for about $60.00 ,



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Bob

12-08-2005 17:06:26




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Mike S 806/H, 12-08-2005 14:20:12  
A friend of mine did just that, about a year ago, with a $75.00 Carter electric pump from a local auto supply.

I was wondering how it was working for him, so when I saw him a few days back, I asked him about it, and he said it's worked perfectly.

I could get the part number tomorrow, and post it, if you'd like.



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Wi Craig

12-08-2005 15:28:37




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Mike S 806/H, 12-08-2005 14:20:12  
While Mike, Vet, and Tim are busy answering my question, I did a search for Dodge tranfer pump on the internet. Wow, what a big piece of junk Dodge put in there for a pump. Appears to be a big cause for injector pump problems. There"s even links for a class action lawsuit. Craig



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Mike S 806/H

12-08-2005 20:05:14




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 15:28:37  
I wouldnt say the pump is junk, its just where they mounted it, The factory pump is a carter, I have had excellent luck with carter pumps, A electric fuel pump should push fuel, where the factory mounted the pump it has to pull the fuel.



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the tractor vet

12-08-2005 13:56:59




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
It is down on the left side of the engine and it is electric and somewhat of a bear to change did one on my buddys 2002 3500 but it was to late as the injection pump was also shot and i had him take the injection pump to one of my friends for the rebuild that was around 800 bucks plus the lift pump . I'll stick with my 95 machanical cummins it's cheeper .



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Tim...Ok

12-08-2005 13:39:39




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 Re: Transfer Pump on Diesel in reply to Wi Craig, 12-08-2005 13:31:39  
the lift pump on the 98 1/2's and newer are bad about starving the injector pump for fuel when they get weak and causing it to fail also.. turns it into a $2500 deal real quick..

best of luck,
Tim



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