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Gary The Rookie

12-01-2005 11:50:04




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Would you consider a 1941 tractor a 'wartime' tractor? Myself I would only call something from 1942 to 1945 'wartime' production since the USA didn't enter WWII til December of 1941.




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I Like Case

12-02-2005 23:14:36




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
I don't think production year has anything to do with it. Everytime I bring home another old tractor there is 'war' at my house.



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christian

12-02-2005 09:56:46




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
depending on the date the tractor was put on service , it will be considered wartime tractor.
i know for beeing a caterpillar salesman that if you have the serial number ,the caterpillar company will be able to search for the expedition date... or date of birth .
That will tell you.

Did you know that caterpillar made a sales presentation to the president and some high ranking officer of the military force at that time. unfortunatly they chose not to buy.
Then caterpillar was called to make the presentation to the germans and they bought the hole production.

Then war came , and caterpillar instead of delivering the tractors to the germans , did in fact contribute to the war effort buy selling those tractors to USA. Talk about some timing !

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Gary The Rookie Farmer

12-01-2005 15:30:39




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
Well, you guys certainly helped me solve this arguement. :)



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RN

12-01-2005 17:26:30




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 15:30:39  
Check Ford board for models 9N and 2N differences. Variations of basic tractor due to war supply conditions varied- some models that had rubber tires before war were sold civilian use with steel wheels. JD and some others had transmission lockout road/high gear bolts to prevent the use of high speed gears in transmissions designed for rubber tires when being used with steel wheels. Lighting and electric starters might be unavailable options. Some tractor models might not have been made during certain times- Case VA and IHC not made for short time or couple years, others may have info on lack of production for others. Massey and Cockshutt Canadian (Commonwealth) manufacture was war start 1939. Other tractors made but only for military and government contractor-as airplane tugs (Cletrac?), defense plant material handler, army utility puller- after war sales to civilian market puts uncommon features on the farm. Check archives, have fun. RN

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RAB

12-01-2005 14:29:55




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
Anything over here from mid "39 would be considered a wartime tractor. A lot of the stuff sent over from the States resides on the seabed, so I would consider that war-time action. That which arrived safely was invaluable for the British agriculture in the war years. We possibly could not have survived without that machinery and would not have survived without all the other aid received from the US, and all our other allies.
Regards, RAB

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RustyFarmall

12-01-2005 12:54:47




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
I guess it would be debateble, I consider a "war time" tractor to be one which was built using substitute materials because of a shortage of the preferred material, and most of this did happen during the period of 1942-1945.



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old

12-01-2005 12:23:44




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to Gary The Rookie Farmer, 12-01-2005 11:50:04  
Thats would be a yes, no, and sort of since we where provideing arms etc to the war before we jumped in to the war.



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Tim B From MA

12-02-2005 09:41:13




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 Re: 'Wartime' tractors in reply to old, 12-01-2005 12:23:44  
That would be Franklin Roosevelts and George Marshall's "Lend Lease" program. Until Pearl Harbor the US public wanted to stay out of the war completely, and would not coutenance giving aid to allies. Lend Lease program allowed Roosevelt to basically say, we are selling this stuff to Britan - but they can pay us latter. That occurred for years before Pearl Harbor.



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