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Brad-inTN

11-24-2005 17:51:39




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Hi to all, This is a great site. With the various forum subjects available and the other excellent features here...it's great ! But the forum software seems to need an update. I'm a user of other forum's and the the ease of use of the newer software is a no comparison. One of the most irritating things is the fact that the highly active subjects slide off of page one as fast as the less active ones do. Bumping the subject to the top when a reply is posted keeps the more interesting subjects in the spotlight. There are other pluses to be considered also...the little pop-up reviews and not having to use the back button so often are a couple that come to mind. Now I know many of you are used to using this forum as is, but I really think an upgrade would be an excellent improvement to an already great forum. I hope some of you will consider this concept and voice your opinion. Love, peace and joy to all on this beautiful Thanksgiving Day.

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Sid

11-25-2005 20:46:46




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad in TN, I guess I got kinda hasty in my reply to you post this Morning. I have been reading the Blog and news on this site and it has been pointed out to me where Kim has had some thoughts along this line. I apologize to you for refering to your post as being rude eartlier this morning.



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Jay (ND)

11-25-2005 23:21:09




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 Holy Cow Sid in reply to Sid, 11-25-2005 20:46:46  
I read this second after your response to my response below. I'll say it again, you are a good man.

I don't think we agree on the way this forum should be but that is good as long as we can debate it in a civil manner. Maybe eventually we will come up with a software for the stuck in the muds and the "pierced-and-tattooed baggy pants and underwear up to yer armpits set"

Have a great weekend.

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Fawteen

11-26-2005 03:31:44




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 Re: Holy Cow Sid in reply to Jay (ND), 11-25-2005 23:21:09  
";^)



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JK-NY

11-25-2005 19:21:20




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Hi Brad,as already mentioned, this topic has come up before, the site owners polled us and most people prefer this format. If you would like info about this it is listed in the "news and blog" area of this forum -second entry under "community" on the list to the left of this page. I have been to other pages and the other format is ok but I like the fact that this one stays in chronological order, which is nice for those of us who might not stop in every day.

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Dixieland

11-25-2005 18:22:47




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I am old, my computer is old, my tractors are old, my wife is old, and I done got used to it! If I want to change something or get any ambition, I jus take a nap till it passes.
This is a great site and I have not had a single problem in the years I have used it.
I hate those stupid computer anwsering machines the banks are using. If that is progress, you can keep it!



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NC Wayne

11-25-2005 16:32:17




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
As another of those wh ohave been on here for a couple of years I also say "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT". I tried out the new forum Kim tried last time and I hated it. With things the way they are it's easy to miss a day or two on here, which I often do, and still be able to go back and read everything posted in order along with finding something you remember seeing several days ago that you foud interesting. There are some real computer guys on here but for the most part most of us know how to get online and look around and that's about it. I can't speak for everybody but I have no time learning the new stuff, I simply don't have the time or, to be honest, the inclination to learn abunch of new mess. I'd rather spend what little time I have learning from reading the other posts or helping someone out with their problem. That's what these forums are for, and they work just fine, so leave them be.....

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Leroy

11-26-2005 18:12:39




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to NC Wayne, 11-25-2005 16:32:17  
You said it and I am not going to buy new computor ware to get a new program



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Engineer20

11-25-2005 16:18:48




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
We fear change!

We fear change!

We fear Change!



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Duner Wi

11-25-2005 12:28:38




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I just clicked on my local newspaper homepage and with all the bells and whistles and streamers it takes 18 seconds to load. I clicked back to YTMAG and it took 3 seconds to load. I am afraid if we improved the site it would slow down for me with dial up connection.
I am for leaving it alone. Kim is still the boss and it will be her business decision. Remember to send money.



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Jeff C

11-25-2005 11:29:21




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
This forumn is great just like it is. And man, what a VAST information resource we have here. For me it"s perhaps the best site on the WWW, bar none. I hope nothing changes that...



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Richard Scott

11-25-2005 10:48:47




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I, too, use other forums. This one runs well and when I click on a message it pops up almost instantly which I like because I hate waiting.

As I understand it, forum software isn't free, so you are asking Kim, who spends the time to monitor the site & keep it running to also pony up the $$ to upgrade.

Just because something new comes along does not necessarily mean the old is deficient--remember the "New Coke" fiasco?

Kim does a great job with the site and I see no persuasive reason to change.

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Joe (Wa)

11-25-2005 09:58:41




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Most "popular" posts are just as interesting as this one and that is to say boring. The pro & con posts are both predictable in content. This thread could consist of one pro & one con post and basically cover the subject. The rest of the posts are just parrots.

Is there anything new or interesting here? Are you going to check in later just to see if a new post has been added? Should this boring post pop to the top of the page every time another parrot jumps on it?

In my view, the short threads are much more interesting since the content is less likely to be general knowledge and I might learn something.

I generally skip the long threads after reading the initial post and one or two responses and never open it again. And I seldom read the long-winded posts like this one I just wrote, LOL.

Joe

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Jay (ND)

11-25-2005 08:35:20




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I'm with you Brad. I think the new forums are more functional. I don't buy into the crap about dial-up either, as they are clean. I've used them on dial-up with no noticable difference.

Having said all that, there are too many guys here that would be too stubborn to learn the new one, so they would just leave. These same guys are some of the most knowledgable and nicest guys around. So if we have to stay in the dark ages to keep them around, I vote we do.

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Hugh MacKay

11-25-2005 08:16:34




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad: Right now 11:17 EST take a look at Farmall and Implement Alley pages. Almost entirely specific questions by folks needing answers to get these old machines up and running. Sure for the most part it is quite boring material. If amoung us we can help these guys, that is good. They aren't going to get much of an ear at CaseIH, FordNH or John Deere.

Yes, I am always open to new ways. When I was a commercial farmer, one of my chief advisors said my biggest fault was being 20 years ahead of my time. Just as an example, in 1975, I removed the calcium chloride from all but one of my 7 tractors and added more rubber on the ground for both traction and floatation. The one tractor was a Farmall 300 that hauled heavy wagons mostly on hard roads. In the past 10 years most on the ag industry finally caught up with me on that one.

I will look at anything new, just don't ask that guy that hasen't reveived a single responce to go to the bottom of page 8. In fact I vote to keep him on top of page 1.

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MarkB_MI

11-25-2005 08:13:23




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
The success of this board has as much to do with the software Kim uses as it is the topics that are discussed here. Of all the internet bulletin boards that I've used, this one is by far the easiest to read and navigate. No, it's not perfect, but most of the other boards are painfully slow to use and navigate over dialup.



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Mike (WA)

11-25-2005 07:52:14




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
This came up a couple of years ago (at Kim's behest, as I recall)- consensus was stay with what we got. I very much prefer this to the "newer" software, for 2 reasons: 1), it stays chronological. I have only limited time on the board, and don't view on weekends- so I need to start at the top, and work backwards until I come to the last post I clicked on, to see everything. The posts with only one or two responses would get lost in the shuffle under the "most recent response goes to the top" format. 2), Most of the "newer" boards use what amounts to the "expand" feature of this board- that is, all responses are in order, and you can't tell who is answering who. I like the fact that you can follow the threads that go off on tangents on this board. Also, Cowman makes a good point- a higher precentage of users here are on dial up, being in the hinterlands, and this format works better for them. Lets not "fix" this board by screwing it up.

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sammy the RED

11-25-2005 07:47:42




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Hi Brad, welcome to the board.

Like some others have said, Kim has tried a couple of times to upgrade. Each time, some of the guys threaten to never visit and/or never post again if she did go thru with an upgrade.

It really does not matter to me one way or the other. I liked a lot of the features of the new verison she tried. And this old one works fine also.

I have been posting here about 6 years.
I'm on dial up and I visit differant boards with newer software. They all load about the same. Sometimes this one loads slower than the new ones.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Just my 2 cents.

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Weirsdale George

11-25-2005 07:18:08




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" That phrase has probably been used a dozen times in this thread. What a narrow minded perspective! If, through the millennia, that attitude had existed we would still be hunter-gatherers wearing animal skins (if we would even had progressed that far).

"Why have indoor plumbing when outhouses served man for centuries?"

"Why do we need cars when horses got us from one place to another for generations?"

"Tractors? Who needs tractors? My grandfather farmed with mules so that should be good enough for me!"

How many of the preceding things were "broken" before innovation changed them?

I wonder how many of those on this forum twenty years ago said, "Personal computer. I don't need a stinking personal computer! A pen and and a piece of paper works just fine! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!" "

Brad-inTN made a valid statement voicing an opinion of his. I think he, in turn, deserves valid reasons why the forum is the way it is and not some time-worn cliche.

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Fawteen

11-25-2005 09:36:39




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Weirsdale George, 11-25-2005 07:18:08  
A valid point in general, but in this specific instance, I disagree for a couple of reasons:

1. Lot of us are running old OS's and browsers on (by current standards) old, underpowered, slow computers.

2. New software nearly invariably comes with a lot of bells and whistles that 90% of users don't need, want or use. All they do is add to processor load. (See #1)

3. Not everyone buys into the idea that you MUST have the latest, most feature-rich OS and hardware. I got better things (like old tractors) to spend my money on.

4. I DO NOT WANT the "latest reply to the top of the list" feature. It's a giant PITA when you're looking for a specific post. With this software, I know that the "Wiget for a 1919 Emerson-Brantingham" post is right below the 1,293rd iteration of "Gas Prices", and will stay there.

5. Smiley faces, avatars and other bells and whistles add nothing to the useful content of these boards and regardless of what some folks think, when you're on the wrong end of 30 miles of 50 year old copper, they DO slow things down. Leave that crap for the pierced-and-tattooed baggy pants and underwear up to yer armpits set.

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4010guy

11-25-2005 07:44:33




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Weirsdale George, 11-25-2005 07:18:08  
boy your right on target thear george i couldent agree more but what the heck are we going to do with theese old farts that still like to work with 40 year tractors(like me)



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old art

11-25-2005 11:00:00




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to 4010guy, 11-25-2005 07:44:33  
i like it the way it is if i ask a question i get an answer shortly and some one always seems to be willing to help. art



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Nebraska Cowman

11-25-2005 05:51:38




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
A big percentage of users here are on dial-up and the glitzy sites are just too slow. I'll keep simple. Hey, BTW if you want to show off a little you can write html code in your post. I kinda like that feature.
Yeah YTMag!!!!



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Sid

11-25-2005 05:51:18




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I ain't got time right now to read the rest of the replies. But I think what you are doing in this post is like a guy going to someone's house and saying well you have got a nice place, but this picture will looke better over there and this wall needs to be moved backed and this window needs to be bigger. I for one think it seems kinda rude. If you know how to build a better site have at it and let us come and see how good of a job you did.

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tlak

11-25-2005 07:16:57




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Sid , 11-25-2005 05:51:18  
Sid, I don"t think your scenario is accurate. I think anybody can make a suggestion. Your making it personal like it"s your house.



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Sid

11-25-2005 17:26:40




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to tlak, 11-25-2005 07:16:57  
This statement was made in the original post, "but I really think an upgrade would be an excellent improvement to an already great forum. I hope some of you will consider this concept and voice your opinion." He made a statement, he asked for opinions, and I gave mine. I did not mean to make it personel like it's my house. What I was refering to is the fact that this is Kim's site and we are all her guest. I guess I may have taken things wrong as I was in a hurry this morning. But it did strike me as being rude to Kim after all she puts into this site to keep it going.

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Sid

11-25-2005 17:26:29




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to tlak, 11-25-2005 07:16:57  
This statement was made in the original post, "but I really think an upgrade would be an excellent improvement to an already great forum. I hope some of you will consider this concept and voice your opinion." He made a statement, he asked for opinions, and I gave mine. I did not mean to make it personel like it's my house. What I was refering to is the fact that this is Kim's site and we are all her guest. I guess I may have taken things wrong as I was in a hurry this morning. But it did strike me as being rude to Kim after all she puts into this site to keep it going.

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Jay (ND)

11-25-2005 18:45:15




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Sid, 11-25-2005 17:26:29  
Sid, if you've read some of what Kim has said on this, you'll see that the 'new-fangled' software would be easier for her. She keeps patching this old stuff to keep up with the new technology and intruders. Make no mistake, this forum is the way it is because of the insistance of its users, not because that is the way the owner likes it.



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Sid

11-25-2005 20:40:07




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Jay (ND), 11-25-2005 18:45:15  
Jay I have done some looking around and have found what you are refering to. Thanks for pointing that out to me.



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Jay (ND)

11-25-2005 23:08:35




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Sid , 11-25-2005 20:40:07  
You're a decent man. I assure you I meant no offense. I do understand the point of everyone that likes it this way - I just happen to disagree with it. :)



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Alberta Mike

11-25-2005 05:49:38




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad, not being a computer geek myself, I'm not aware of all the problems you list (and I will say you have done so in a polite way). Having said that, the upgrades you refer to probably aren't free and as a result, Kim is going to have to spend some money on them. Where does she get her money (assuming she's not independantly wealthy), well from advertising of course and also from user donations. I've often thought that she should be more aggressive soliciting donations and have made that comment to her a time or two but her requests remain subtle and not "in your face". You probably didn't even know that you could (or should) contribute to this site and if you haven't I suggest you search around on the home page where it mentions voluntary donations and get your pen out and write her a cheque. If you have already done so, then I retract my comments about this to you but encourage others reading it to do what I suggest. Have a good day.

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Fawteen - NO!

11-25-2005 04:13:29




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
It ain't broke. Don't fix it.



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Buck D.

11-25-2005 07:09:10




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Fawteen - NO!, 11-25-2005 04:13:29  
There's another saying..."If it ain't broke,fix it until it is." I hope that don't happen here.



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Super Lurker

11-25-2005 06:09:14




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Fawteen - NO!, 11-25-2005 04:13:29  
I agree---don't mess up what works for the regular users and lurkers. Sometimes it's best to leave well enough alone. Newer ain't always better.



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Hugh Mac Kay

11-25-2005 04:07:24




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad: If other forums are so great, that is exactly where you belong. This forum is about helping folks find answers to their respective questions, and that guy who's questions can be answered by a couple of responces, is just as important as any other thread. These forums are not a popularity contest.

It is my opinion in fact that questions not getting answers are that ones that should stay front and center. Now, if your wanting to track that 20 responce thread, no problem, just click on E mail notification.

This forum has been declared by many folks as the very best one. Guess what keeps it great. It's user friendly for new folks everyday. Just yesterday there was a new guy on Farmall page, declared he learned more about tractors in 3 hours on Thanksgiving Day than he ever imagined he would.

Kim has tried several times to create a forum for you popular topic guys. They don't work. I suspect she is allready tired of the current one.

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tlak

11-25-2005 05:12:12




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Hugh Mac Kay, 11-25-2005 04:07:24  
This forum is not very good and Kim has not found a better one by the couple times she tried to change it. To her credit she brings them in on a trial basis. The email notifications only works if somebody actually responses to what you said. I think this forum is called the best because of the fast, knowledgeable responses, not the makeup of the forum. I noticed some topics take off but they're already two or three pages back.
There are worse because a forum I use to go to changed the format and totally ruined it.

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RustyFarmall

11-25-2005 04:31:37




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Hugh Mac Kay, 11-25-2005 04:07:24  
Hugh, you hit the nail right square on the head. Just because a topic doesn't recieve any responses immediately doesn't mean it is not popular or important. If that topic remains in view long enough, it might just turn out to be most popular.



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Mike M

11-25-2005 03:38:56




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Let's all haul our old tractors to the scrap yard and go buy new ones too !! NOT !!!!! !

I think the other sites should change over to this style !!!!! !!!!! !!!!! ! When I first started spending more time on the computer and stumbled apon this site,I couldn't believe it. There was actually a site I could navigate with ease,loads fast,and best of all WAS FREE !!!!! !!



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Midwest redneck

11-25-2005 03:11:06




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I have been posting and reading here for 4+ years now. I dont see a problem with it, it works doesnt it. Did you fill up on too much turkey and stuffing yesterday? Maybe a little too much alcohol? If it aint broke dont fix it. My grandpa used to say that.



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john in la

11-25-2005 03:09:15




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Sorry but the new forum software has been tried and was voted out.
Most of us like the way it is over the new one.

Happy Holidays
John



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I Like Case

11-24-2005 22:25:55




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I see no problem with OLD software. After all this site is about OLD iron and is predominantly used by OLD farts. This is the Best OLD site around, let keep it that way. Thanks for putting up with us Kim.



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37 chief

11-24-2005 22:16:32




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
As others have said if it isn't broke don't fix it. Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Stan.



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john d

11-24-2005 21:53:53




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Introducing new software would fix what most on this site don't see as problems.
It's been tried, and was switched back. It was about as popular as "New Coke" was a few years ago.
Hope your holiday was a good one.



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paul

11-24-2005 21:29:39




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Floating active messages to the top mean the 'heated' messages get even more attention, while the ones that are looking for attention fall off the bottom. That is great for political or conversational type forums, but horrid for this type of message base where people come hoping to get help, not conversation.

2. This software is _the best ever_ for dial-up connections and not-Windows XP. I try to be active on those other new gee wiz bang type of sites you mention, but they can take 2 minutes to load a page with all the fluff & junk on a dialup. I quickly lose inrest. My 2nd computer is an iMac, and there are several sites that simpley bomb out, will not appear on non-XP software. How rude. Those .php ones are the worst.

3. This site loads faster, & has options to not need the back-up buttom much at all. I'm not sure what you mean, total opposite opinion from me on those.

4. This software does have a few quirks. And we all have different tastes & prefrences. By far, this 'old' software has been the best preforming forum site for the last decade as I can see. It beats the heck out of those new flashy, content-less type of sites. imho.

5. Someday the powers that be will want to add more advertising, use something out of the box. Will be easier for them. I understand. But, will be an unfortunate day - again, imho. :) It will be a step backwards for many users.

--->Paul

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T_Bone

11-24-2005 21:19:11




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Hi Brad,

One thing that I truely enjoy on this website is we can search your IP addy and see just how many posts you have made, even read them if a person wants too.

Your IP address returns no other posts besides this one.

Next we can also search your user name, Brad-inTN, and once again we find no other posts by this user.

From that I can pretty well be assured you'll be gone tomorrow and never post again, have never made a donation to the up keep of this website, and have never taken the time to get to know the website.

Why? Cause if you had you would know that Kim, the website owner, just tried the new style forum software a few months back, and the members here voted to keep what were using as we liked it best. Had you been here you could have voted too!

So stick around and join in as there's lively bunch here and you'll be amazed what you can learn from the knowledgeable members. I'll guarantee you there's not another website like it.

And Happy T-day to you :)

T_Bone

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wayne2

11-25-2005 08:36:03




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to T_Bone, 11-24-2005 21:19:11  
IS Brad a Fly????



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Thack

11-24-2005 21:03:38




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Like you I am also a user of other forums and IMO this one is perfect compared to the others. My favorite feature is that you "do not" have to use the back button all the time.



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Brad-inTN

11-24-2005 22:00:52




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Thack, 11-24-2005 21:03:38  
This reminds me of the difficulty tractor dealers had many years ago getting farmers to switch from steel to rubber tires. Or the concept of going to "no-till" from the "perfect" or "tried and true" system they had been using for years. I see that two or three of the "against" group seem to have used some of the newer forum software at other sites. I've yet to see anyone make a real good case against this faster and more full featured system. Seems to be mostly just a "stuck in a rut" attitude. Those of you who are truly members, posters and users of the newer stuff at other sites and have spoken against...I respect your opinion. Have all of you who are against, users of newer sites ? Please share some quality analysis of the old vs the new if you have truly tried it out thoroughly. I would like to hear from our host on this subject. Kim,(I hope that is the correct name) I do like this site you have very much, but I would like to hear your opinion on this subject. If you could share some comparisons of the features available on the new vs. the old, perhaps we could have some better insight on the subject. Or if you are flat out against a change... let us know. I suspect, like the steel vs. rubber thing, that most users would actually appreciate the added benefits of the upgrade once they got used to it. Are we having fun yet ? :)

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4010guy

11-25-2005 07:31:24




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 22:00:52  
I have alwoys kinda liked steel weels myself(they dont go flat)



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Dale in IN

11-25-2005 06:37:12




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 22:00:52  
Brad in Tn;

I doubt if you were even around when farmers went from steel to rubber on their tractors. So all you have to go on is hear say. Fruthermore I see more farmers going back to chisel plowing and even some are returning to moldboard plows.
It sounds to me as though you need to learn this soft wear rather then condem it Then maybe you could manover better.



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Fawteen

11-25-2005 04:15:47




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 22:00:52  
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were a software salesman.



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A.P.

11-25-2005 02:05:03




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 22:00:52  
One feature that I find very useful on this forum that I do not find on may of the "newer" forums is the ability to view just one post ot the entire subject. I get tired of having to open the posts individually all of the time on other boards. As you say, I have better things to do than using the back button all of the time or having to click on individual responses to open them one at at time when I want to view the whole thread.

Sometimes newer is better, but not always.

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Dandy Don

11-24-2005 20:48:05




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
This is running GOOD. DON"T FIX IT.You can always start you own. Then you could scre--(twist it up) anyway you want to. Jmo Don



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old

11-24-2005 20:03:14




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I look at it this way. IF IT ISN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT. and it isn't broke. I love this site and so far it seems to work just fine like it is.



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doogdoog

11-24-2005 19:52:01




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Aloha, I agree with 730-LP that this site is free but donations accepted. I don't know how much she receives in donations but I would think it isn't worth running this site. Leave well enough alone unless you can give her the big bucks to upgrade.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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730-LP

11-24-2005 19:27:31




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad this is a FREE sight, unless you have sent a large donation lately I don,t see as you have a right to complain.Kim thanks for this wonderful sight keep up the good work



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Dave H (MI)

11-24-2005 19:20:51




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I am afraid I have to join the group that likes it as is. I prefer the chronological postings. Sometimes it just makes more sense when a problem is ongoing. There is also the issue of the popularity of the person posting. On the N board right now they have a relatively new person on there who, while definitely into her Ford tractor, has drawn a lot of attention from the majority male members of that board. Nothing gross or inappropriate, but still a lot of attention. She recently posted some pictures of old tools and received 49 responses before I gave up counting. With your system, would not the posts by this person tend to dominate the top of the forum? Make it more like a chat room from my perspective. Not to pick on the ladies, so what about our friend from Nebraska? He would need a forum all his own. You would have to scroll down three pages to find a post not related to his most recent activities. Nice guy and always appropriate but also popular. Need I go on?
How would a newer software handle that sort of thing?

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Dave H (MI)

11-24-2005 19:20:30




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
I am afraid I have to join the group that likes it as is. I prefer the chronological postings. Sometimes it just makes more sense when a problem is ongoing. There is also the issue of the popularity of the person posting. On the N board right now they have a relatively new person on there who, while definitely into her Ford tractor, has drawn a lot of attention from the majority male members of that board. Nothing gross or inappropriate, but still a lot of attention. She recently posted some pictures of old tools and received 49 responses before I gave up counting. With your system, would not the posts by this person tend to dominate the top of the forum? Make it more like a chat room from my perspective. Not to pick on the ladies, so what about our friend from Nebraska? He would need a forum all his own. You would have to scroll down three pages to find a post not related to his most recent activities. Nice guy and always appropriate but also popular. Need I go on?
How would a newer software handle that sort of thing?

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Gene Davis (Ga.)

11-24-2005 18:53:17




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
The site belongs to Kim. Guess she will change it over when she sees fit. Isn't there an alternate forum that is new style?



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Engineer20

11-24-2005 18:09:49




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Brad-inTN, 11-24-2005 17:51:39  
Brad,
I agree with you 100%.
The most active topics need to stay at the top of the page.



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Farmall Teen

11-24-2005 18:49:56




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Engineer20, 11-24-2005 18:09:49  
After what you said, I agree 101%. One problem is slowly changing the software. Some of the seniors of this site, will have problems changing over. That"s one of the problems that Kim is having.

Farmall Teen



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Pete in Cal

11-24-2005 18:47:02




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Engineer20, 11-24-2005 18:09:49  
It isn't broken. Leave it alone.



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lgc

11-24-2005 18:48:38




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to Pete in Cal, 11-24-2005 18:47:02  
I like the software as is. I read a couple other forums with the newer software. I like this one much better. dont fix it.



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toolman

11-24-2005 19:21:15




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to lgc, 11-24-2005 18:48:38  
YT is the best place on the net and the present software is one of the reasons why.



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kyhayman

11-24-2005 20:20:28




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to toolman, 11-24-2005 19:21:15  
I'm with you. I belong to a half dozen forums, seems they all use the same stuff. Bleah!!! Only yt kept what worked. I like the scrolling, most of the long threads are ot stuff not tractor stuff anyway.



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4010guy

11-24-2005 21:12:03




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to kyhayman, 11-24-2005 20:20:28  
BOY O BOY they told u dident they!!! bet u wont bring that one up again for awile!! ha ha



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wayne2

11-25-2005 08:40:17




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to 4010guy, 11-24-2005 21:12:03  
Damn, where did i put that fly swatter!!!!! !



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4010guy

11-25-2005 10:31:31




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to wayne2, 11-25-2005 08:40:17  
be carefull with that swater as sometimes you can get wounded with your weppen ha ha ha



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

11-25-2005 13:02:04




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 Re: Time for new forum software ? in reply to 4010guy, 11-25-2005 10:31:31  
Brad: Why ask Kim to change. Go out and start your own forum with what ever software you want. The new software will probably be obsolete before you would get installed. This forum is great the way it is. You can use this forum for years and still find something new.



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