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4/12 pitch

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504

11-22-2005 20:15:06




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What would the degree of the angle be on a roof with a 4/12 pitch? I need to build a spot light mount for the roof of our church. Thanks in advance. Kevin




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Bruce in KS

11-25-2005 15:31:02




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to 504, 11-22-2005 20:15:06  
Built my garage this last year with 4/12 trusses and having crappy math skills soon experimented with the miter saw to find that magical 18 degrees to do my fascia trim.



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Mike Van

11-23-2005 01:59:37




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to 504, 11-22-2005 20:15:06  
504 - do you have a framing square? go out 12" on one leg, up 4" on the other & you got it -



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T_Bone

11-22-2005 22:12:39




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to 504, 11-22-2005 20:15:06  
Hi Kevin,

Easy way to figure pitch angles is start with a 12/12 or 45º then a 6/12=22.5º then a 3/12=11.25º then divide 3 into 11.25=3.75 as there's 3" from 3/12 to 6/12 so each inch of rise is equal to 3.75º then we get:

12/12=45º
11/12=41.25º
10/12=37.5º
9/12=33.75º
8/12=30º
7/12=26.25º
6/12=22.5º
5/12=18.75º
4/12=15º
3/12=11.25º
2/12=7.5º
1/12=3.75º

T_Bone

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MarkB_MI

11-23-2005 02:38:09




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to T_Bone, 11-22-2005 22:12:39  
T-Bone,

Jerry has it right. Your way is an approximation that isn't too bad when you're close to zero or 45 degrees, but it's way off when you get towards the middle (22.5 degrees).

12/12=45º (correct)
11/12=41.25º (actually 42.5)
10/12=37.5º (actually 39.8)
9/12=33.75º (actually 36.9)
8/12=30º (actually 33.7)
7/12=26.25º (actually 30.3)
6/12=22.5º (actually 26.6)
5/12=18.75º (actually 22.6)
4/12=15º (actually 18.4)
3/12=11.25º (actually 14.0)
2/12=7.5º (actually 9.5)
1/12=3.75º (actually 4.8)

That 3.4 degree error would be enough to spoil Kevin's project.

And if you try to use your method to figure out angles greater than 45 degrees, it really goes south, since the tangent of 90 degrees is infinity.

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T_Bone

11-23-2005 08:13:32




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to MarkB_MI, 11-23-2005 02:38:09  
Hi Mark,

Your absolutly correct.

As soon as I opened the thread this morning I knew I was wrong as you can't have equal vertical spaces and rise a equal number of degrees.

Thanks for catching my mistake!

T_Bone



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JMS/MN

11-22-2005 21:10:35




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to 504, 11-22-2005 20:15:06  
I'm not going to do the math- I'll assume Jerry did that. But- for a 4/12 pitch: Draw a horizontal line on a piece of paper, right end of it is 'A', 12 inches to the left is 'B', 4 inches above 'A' is 'C'. Measure the angle at 'A' with a protractor.



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Jerry/MT

11-22-2005 20:18:52




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to 504, 11-22-2005 20:15:06  
arc tangent of 4/12 =arc tangent .3333 = 18.4 degrees



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ranger John

11-23-2005 07:40:09




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to Jerry/MT, 11-22-2005 20:18:52  
Isn't it rise over run?

So wouldn't that be the arcsine(4/12) = 19.5 degrees?



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Jerry/MT

11-23-2005 13:08:41




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to ranger John, 11-23-2005 07:40:09  
Yep it is rise over the run and that's the definition of the tangent of an angle (y/x).



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ChasK

11-23-2005 02:50:00




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to Jerry/MT, 11-22-2005 20:18:52  
Now Jerry....don't you mean 18.434949???? Sorry I just couldn't resist!!!:)



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Jerry/MT

11-23-2005 13:11:50




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to ChasK, 11-23-2005 02:50:00  
Chas, you must be one of those d----d engineers, just like me!(Grin)



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504

11-23-2005 20:25:13




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 Re: 4/12 pitch in reply to Jerry/MT, 11-23-2005 13:11:50  
Wow.I didn`t think I was opening a can of worms!(GRIN) Thanks guys, now I just need to hit the SS scrap bin and maybe get one of the powder coat shops on my route to donate a little time, and the bracket will last longer than I will.



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