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Tractors With The Retro Look

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Dave in GA

11-10-2005 15:52:15




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My next door neighbor has an older Deere riding mower, about 18 HP. He's had to do frequent engine work on it and finally decided to take the hood off altogether and drive it without a hood. The thing's an eyesore, but I guess he now has a fairly modern unstyled John Deere tractor.

It got me thinking. The auto companies have been making retro, nostalgic cars for a few years, such as the modern VW bug, the T-bird, the PT Cruiser, and now the Mustang. They look a lot like the old, original cars of a previous era, but they are completely modern. So why doesn't John Deere come out with a retro unstyled A, for example, that looks a lot like the 1930s model, but with a modern design, a horizontal 2 cylinder diesel engine, hydraulics, wide front, etc.? It could be quite popular. The other companies could do the same, perhaps introducing a modern, state-of-the-art tractor that looks like a Farmall M or F-30 or an Allis Chalmers WC.

Also, all of the late model tractors today have streamlined, aerodynamic hoods. I've never undrstood why this is necessary since they don't run at Talledega and Darlington on Sunday afternoons.

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RN

11-12-2005 17:39:16




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
Retro? Pre-WW2? Nothing available now that I know of without research. For something of about late 60s look- Mahindra from India has a couple models like number series IHC 200/300 series- they are former licensed in India makers of B274, B414 (British) IHC, still making same model as well as later designs. Zetor from Romania? has a Ford 8N sort of replica, Belarus- marketing name for Russian made- sort of IHC looking 50 hp tractor. Polish Ursus also had 50s/60s look model. Mahindra and Belarus marketed here, Zetor and Ursus less marketed. Mahindra has fairly good reputation. French CIMA was IHC plant- farm show had couple displayed about like 300 series look- not sure if their still made. French MF had a model like 135/165 look advertised for Quebec market with note that sheetmetal partial interchanged with early original. MF board might have more info, someone quoted/posted the French made models as source of sheetmetal for restorations. Landini from Italy supposed to have an older looking model with modern engine- they are now partial owners of New holland/Case name? RN.

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Brian in Ohio

11-11-2005 06:53:06




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
Don't know if this would qualify in you line of thinking, but I ran across a guy a few years back selling completely refurbished 8N Fords. Every nut, bolt, screw, seal, gear, you name it, was replaced. He was getting around $6000 for one, and that included a warranty. Old tractor - New parts...



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dbear

11-11-2005 05:58:41




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
I think it was Hobby Horse Ranch that used to sell a Chinese made tractor that looked like a Ford N series. Sharp lookin' rig with diesel engine, 8sp tranny, and 4wd. Not sure which company made it, nor even if it's still available...



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Rauville

11-11-2005 05:02:28




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
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Look on the Case board at the DC Case's that Ted Olbrich is building in Cambodia. Putting turbo charged diesel along with 4x4, 3 point hitch, power steering, etc. into vintage 1950's era DC's, and selling them for $8000.
Like he said: He would like to try the US market...they might be the PT Cruiser of tractors!

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Mike M

11-11-2005 04:31:37




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
I"m suprized the Japs/Chineese haven"t started building copies of 4020"s and such to sell to US.



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cdmn

11-10-2005 20:16:03




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
I think it would be a lot cheaper to restore/modify the real thing than to make a retro tractor. I sometimes think of putting D17 sheet metal on a 175 Allis. I think you could put H sheet metal on a 504 IHC. You see all kinds of half-scale tractors built from bits and pieces. A 530 JD is very nice, but not available in diesel. It would be pretty tough to engineer a diesel conversion for it. Perhaps there's a Lanz diesel tractor that could have the 530 sheet metal pasted on it.

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Christos

11-10-2005 19:45:52




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
Well, your post got me thinking - granted this might be my personal bias, even though I have a M-F, I always thought the Medallion that had the model number on it was a classy touch. I think that if AGCO were to couple a medallion with their current paint scheme and red centers to the wheels the modern M-F would look awesome. About John Deere, I think that if they were to recreate the 3rd numbered Series of the 2 cyl. tractors, the x30s, those would look sharp and I would probably buy one of those for looks alone.

Just my two cents...

Christos

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Too Far Gone

11-10-2005 18:18:03




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
Dave,I agree with you.Id love to see some 4020,or 806 style newer tractors.Ive been down the electronic tractor road,thats exactly why Im back to the older ones.These new things look nice,but always down with an electric sensor out.The older ones were to simple for us to work on,so they screwed them up so bad now the dealer techs dont even know what they are doing,they're no longwer mechanics,they're just parts changers.Put on a part,if that dont work they'll be glad to try another part while they charge for all of it of course.Ive run a loader my fair share,and hauled a lot of hay,and I dont have to see the end of my spear to stab a bale.Yeah,bring back good old american engineered simplicity!

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its really nice..........

11-10-2005 17:50:55




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
..... ....to be able to look over your hood and see what your bale forks are doing. i traded a 1466 with loader in on a new jx 95 c/ih with a sloped hood and loader.wow!total change you can really see the forks!nice
..PP



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ebbsspeed

11-10-2005 19:10:27




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to its really nice.........., 11-10-2005 17:50:55  
But think how low the hood could have been on some of the smaller 2-cylinder tractors with a little computer-aided design. The radiator could be quite a bit lower, fuel tank flattened a bit, etc. I know on an A and a B there is quite a bit of available space under the hood, and in front of the radiator.



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j meyer

11-10-2005 17:24:21




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
I would have to say the reason they keep redoing tractor lines is to keep us on our heals, and to make us appreciate late model units that are proven:)



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jfp

11-10-2005 16:55:12




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 Re: Tractors With The Retro Look in reply to Dave in GA, 11-10-2005 15:52:15  
I don't know why, to answer all your questions. One thing about the new hoods, you can see over them better. I don't belong in the fashion police squad (not being rude), my woman does all that for me.



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