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Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors

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Tractorcedric

11-07-2005 18:12:48




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With winter coming would it be a good idea to drain all of the fluids out of the tractors I have collected this summer. And it will be awhile before I get to restore some of them.Do you think it will be bad for them to be with out oil in them.I have them in shelters but not heated. I have heard stories that if they set to long the bearings above the oil level will rust. They are already in rough shape and I don't want them to get worse before I can restore them.

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Arizona Bob

11-08-2005 18:23:38




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
While supporting the National Guard and Reserves at Camp McCoy Wisconsin in the late 50"s, we did what was called fogging the tracked vehicles for winter storage. Start the track and pour oil into the carb until the engine stalls. Supposed to get the innards nice and oily thus preventing rust.

Bob



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Bfloyd

11-08-2005 16:18:01




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
I"ve seen old iron sit for years without anything done to them without apparent damage. If I had a bunch of old tractors I planed to restore I would put fresh oil in them then turn everything over long enough to insure all parts get a splash of fresh oil before putting them on blocks in the shed. Then they will be good for years if you turn them over every few months. Or,if money is of concern just make sure there is no water in any of the cases, top them off, turn them over before putting on blocks. Of course drain blocks and radiators unless filled with coolant.

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JDknut

11-08-2005 03:39:56




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
Good ideas in these posts. Also, I'd start them pups every couple of weeks or so if I could, and run them until after they reach operating temps. If you can't, put gas stabilizer in the gassers and oil in the cylinders or bar them over every couple of weeks to keep them from setting up. Make sure the antifreeze is up to the temps for the winter (up here you have to have 40 or 50 below antifreeze to be safe). That's all you really need to do as long as you plan to run them in the spring. Extended storage is another thing, tho.

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wayne2

11-07-2005 21:54:46




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
Line em up-cranks forward,raise one rear tire,every walk about crank or spin-rememberseals on shifters leak-pull a few plugs-quickly!!!add a little elect tape on shifter-boot black-tape black. Luck Wayne



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old

11-07-2005 19:22:08




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
Don't drain the oil. Also any place you think has water in it right now, drain and refill with the correct oil. And if you aren't going to start them this winter put a 1/2 cup of oil or tranny fluid in each cylinder. Now that heres why you don't drain them.
If you drain them they would get a lot more condensation in them then they will with oil in them. And condensation casues rust and rust casues locked up engines etc.

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colekicker

11-08-2005 05:58:12




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to old, 11-07-2005 19:22:08  
I second the motion of putting a half cup of oil down each cylinder. Worst that can happen is that you leave oil on top of the cylinder. I would much rather have oil between the piston/rings and cylinder wall than surface rust. The surface rust on a cylinder wall makes for a mess. Just a little can stick and engine.



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kelly campbell

11-07-2005 18:42:40




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
might not be a bad thing to pull the batteries out and store them inside as well..a lot of cold weather can zap them pretty fast



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OK-AL

11-07-2005 18:41:30




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
I wouldn't drain the oil if I were you. I drained the oil on an old car engine and stored it in my barn. Three years later I pulled it out of the barn. It was stuck bad. I pulled the oil pan and discovered that the rods had rusted to the crank, the pistons had rusted to the cylinders and just about everything inside the engine that was steel was rusted bad. The engine was stored in a dry place in the barn, off the floor.

Keep the oil in the engines. No reason to drain it.

OK-AL

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RayP(MI)

11-07-2005 18:53:46




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to OK-AL, 11-07-2005 18:41:30  
Wouldn"t hurt if you could start and run "em a little every couple of weeks. Even turning them over a few times with a hand crank would help. If they"re on blocks, turn over the transmission and wheels too. Distribute the lubrication wherever you can. If you can"t replace the oil, drain a little out the bottom of crankcases and transmissions, to drain any water that has accumulated on the bottom.

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BobinKY

11-07-2005 18:26:24




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:12:48  
I have been restoring old cars for many years and I have never heard of bearings rusting because you leave the oil in them. I have never seen anyone recommend draining oil, even if you plan to store the car outside for the winter. I would suggest that you check the antifreeze in the block and radiator, and you make sure the tires are aired up. That way you won't have any sitting on the rims when the weather turns cold. If you plan to let them set for a long time, it would be a good idea and may save you a lot of money in the end if you drain the fuel from the tank, carb and hoses. Hope this helps.

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Tractorcedric

11-07-2005 18:42:18




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to BobinKY, 11-07-2005 18:26:24  
All good ideas, I am just concerned that the gear oil in some of them have water mixed in. How about draining out the bad oil and refill with diesel fuel? These tractors have probably not had the gear oil changed for fourty years.Would diesel fuel help to dilute some of the old deposits in the transmissions?



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Majorman

11-07-2005 23:08:09




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:42:18  
If you are going to flush the axles and gearboxes use kerosene not diesel. Diesel may affect the seals and O rings. Kerosene was recommended as a dilutent in rear axles in cold weather.



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

11-07-2005 19:17:29




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Tractorcedric, 11-07-2005 18:42:18  
The lub in the rear end will not permently mix with the water. It will seperate and the water will be on the bottom. I crack my drain plugs until the water or oil comes out. Not far enough to dump the oil. Let the water leak out until you get all lub and tighten the plug. Let the water drain slowly or you will loose the last thread in the plug and loose all the oil..



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Nebraska Cowman

11-08-2005 09:53:52




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 Re: Lets say you have a bunch of old tractors in reply to Jerry Cent. Mi., 11-07-2005 19:17:29  
Oh yes it will Jerry. I had some milky gear oil I saved thinking the water would settle out. Kept it several years and it never changed. But water mixed with oil aint gonna break anything, it's that gallon or two of clear water at the bottom of the gear case that could bust something.



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