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Evan350

10-31-2005 08:42:31




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I hate to see stories like this in the news:




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Jimmy King

11-01-2005 01:29:48




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Evan350, 10-31-2005 08:42:31  
You boys are missing one thing, the truck driver was drunk.



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H. Otis

11-01-2005 11:11:51




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Jimmy King, 11-01-2005 01:29:48  
The tractor operator can't control a drunk driver.

He can control the safety of his own vehicle. Operating lights are important if you are going to be driving on public roads.



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doogdoog

10-31-2005 19:25:00




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Evan350, 10-31-2005 08:42:31  
Aloha, Yes, that could possibly been avoided if it was equipped with some type of safety lights. I often see bicycles at night with no lights in the front or the back or on the side. Now, that is another accident waiting to happen.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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BobinKY

10-31-2005 18:34:53




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Evan350, 10-31-2005 08:42:31  
That is a truly tragic story. How could any group have a hayride and not take some precautions for safety. Years back I read on this site where guys were making two-wheeled carts that were equipped with many flashing lights powered by 12 volt batteries. I perceived this cart to be the size of a small lawn cart that you would pull behind a riding mower. They attach it behind any piece of equipment that they are pulling, be it a wagon, a bare tractor, a plow or any other equipment. This sounded like one heck of an idea to me as it could be attached to any equipment and it is down in the line of sight of any vehicle. A simple battery tender could be used to keep the batteries charged. For that matter, you could use one of the solar battery chargers that are designed as back-up to electric fences. It would keep the batteries charged by letting it sit outside. Due to the small size it would not take up any space. Just seemed like a no-brainer for those guys who have to transport equipment on public roads.

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Dave H (MI)

10-31-2005 09:45:37




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Evan350, 10-31-2005 08:42:31  
Boy, I hate to see something like that. I guess you could call me a "professional hayride driver" since I get paid by a local park to do it in the fall for their corn maze. Insurance company here requires a front light whether we are pulling with the team or the tractor. Never heard mention of a rear light but it would seem to be common sense. When I am doing it on my own time I always have an SMV sign on the back. You can see those signs for a long distance in the dark.
I also like to put a strong flashlight in the hands of a reliable person so they can shine it backwards if a vehicle is coming. Best of all, I like to be followed by a vehicle with it's four-ways flashing. Terrible sad story.

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RayP(MI)

10-31-2005 15:15:46




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Dave H (MI), 10-31-2005 09:45:37  
Several years ago, wife worked as a nurse at a local hospital e-room. All of a sudden there were ambulances bringing in victims from a collision many miles away. Seems that a fraternity and sorority from the university 45miles away, had booked a hayride. The wagons (2) were horse drawn, and had a lantern on the rear of the back wagon. Somehow it was broken off in the festivities. Then disaster struck in the form of a drunk driver in a Suburban. Both wagons were hit. Many kids were injured. At least two of the horses had to be put down. Hospitals throughout the area were flooded. Might even have been some fatalities.

That was my wakeuup call! When I do hayrides now, I try to do it in daylight. Have a large yellow rotating beacon on hayrack on rear most wagon, as well as flashing taillights. Clearance lites on all corners of wagons as well as tractor work lights, and red/yellow flashers. If there is a second wagon, it has a yellow strobe, as well as other lights as mentioned. I know it probably spoils the atmosphere, but rather safe than sorry! (I"ve been told that some organizations (( Boy Scouts)) require that any wagons used are of box style, with sides on all four sides.)

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T_Bone

10-31-2005 12:39:34




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to Dave H (MI), 10-31-2005 09:45:37  
Hi Dave,

Boy what a shame to loose lives on what was supposed to be a fun filled night.

I was looking into the AZDOT laws a couple years back and was shocked to see that AZ requires lights and turn signals on ag-tractors and ag-trailers as I had never heard of that.

Our ag-trailers also need turn signals, stop lites, tail lights (if used at night) and brake axles if over 3000lbs, but do not require registeration, no mileage from the farm restricktions either.

One thing I could not find in the laws was anything about SMV usage. No refference to SMV signage of any type but the county sherrif bought our water company members (about 400 members) SMV signs for night time usage as our county roads are getting more traffic at night. Always made me wonder where the SMV rules are located for AZ.

T_Bone

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RJ-AZ

10-31-2005 16:03:57




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to T_Bone, 10-31-2005 12:39:34  
Hey T_Bone thats kind funny because here in the Gilea Vally the farmers pull all sorts of trailers with no lights at all and get away with it. One guy is always pulling a big wagon load of Gin trash in the early morning, still dark and no trailer lights. Try coming up behind a Cotton picker at 65 mph and he only has maybe one dim red light on the rear. During picking season there is more AG traffic on the roads than any other time of the year.

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T_Bone

10-31-2005 16:54:56




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 Re: Truck--hayride crash in reply to RJ-AZ, 10-31-2005 16:03:57  
Hi RJ,

I here what your saying as them same apply's to the way it is here. I was looking up the DOT laws as the sherrif was receiving complaints from the city folk turned country folk.

I just never thought of a tractor or tractor eqipment needing turn singals or stop lights but that's what the law says.

I see the custom harvesters out of Texas with flashers when there moving equipment but not turn signals nor stop lites and I'm sure there's been a few fender benders already. Makes me wonder how expensive it gets for the harvester companys.

T_Bone

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