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Jim_bobb

10-28-2005 07:47:29

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I never used a farm tractor in winter for snow removal. The tractor weighs about 3700 lbs with rear wheel weights.

Adding tire chains results in the chain dropping into the area in-between the tire ribs.

How would this help traction? Have to use a turf type tire? Or, are chains not really required?

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Bret4207

10-29-2005 05:44:49

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

Sounds like you have hiway or ladder typre chains. Try "double ring" chains and you'll see the difference. Horrid on pavemant, great on mud, snw, swamp, woods. www.tirechains.com

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Mark - IN.

10-29-2005 03:53:08

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

Thanks for the reminder. Is another "need to do" to add to the list. Soak the chains again, inspect, re-hang. Gonna need in a month + or -.

Well, better to keep busy than not. Anyone else experiencing premature graying with all of the added up "need to do's", or is just me? Because I'm getting grayer a lot faster than I think I'm sposed to. Balder too.

Mark

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johndeeregene

10-28-2005 22:37:09

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

you all might laugh at me but i put chains on my farm pickup. during the winter i live down a 1/2 mile deadend road that we maintain, that really drifts. used to blow it out everytime with the 10 by 5 snow blower, then bought a 9 1/2 ft blade for the front of pickup, several years, 2500 for blade 1500 to beef up front end to carry the extra weight. worked good most of time only had to blow the snow every 3 or 4 passes with pickup can only push snow much snow far. but still got pickup stuck every so often, put tire chains on every tire. now dont get stuck, wife started to plow the snow last year. she says no but i think she really started to enjoy it. espically when she came out to resue me at the end of the road when i put my car in ditch. i drove the pickup in the ditch an plowed snow around car then pulled it out. i will not be with out tire chains again ever again on that pickup.
johndeeregene
central ia

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Jim_bobb

10-28-2005 19:32:41

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

Tnx all. I'll install chain links in the middle of thread.

Darn cold in MN. We get buffered by the Lakes in MI. Worst here was -35F, but usually about 0-20F in Jan & Feb.

I got a feeling this is going to be a tough winter with lots of snow.

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Kevin Bismark

10-28-2005 15:52:14

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

with the snow and ice in minnesota the tire chains come in handy, have a set on an M farmall and it would be worthless without them, and she is pretty heavy on the rear end as it is, but get on ice and the tires just don"t grip anything, have an 1100 massey without chains with a snowblower and wish I had chains on it it"s not to bad using the snow blower but you don"t get much traction pushing snow with the loader, got plenty of power but can"t push much

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Tim Shultz

10-28-2005 13:36:59

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

I have a case 611B with a 7ft rear blade and I have never used chains....
like others have said might depend where you live at and the kind of snow you have.
I live in north IN.
Tim Shultz

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Mike M

10-28-2005 10:03:00

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

Since you have chains that fit allready you maybe able to modify the cross links. Tractor tire chains have 2 cross links hooked together in the center with a couple of rings so they kinda form an X this holds them up on the bars some. We have a 4020 with a loader and blade and fluid in the rear tires. This thing is so heavy it is very helpless on snow and ice,but with the chains it works very well.

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Wi Craig

10-28-2005 09:53:58

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

I had ladder type chains on my tractor. However, every other chain was a litle longer, thus did not lie between the treads. Have to have chains though.

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CEB

10-28-2005 08:09:55

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

If you have a two wheel drive tractor you definitely need chains to get anything done on snow and ice. I am assuming that you have a tractor with regular field type tires. That being the case, you will need "field type" chains. They have cross links which prevent chains from working their way down into the lugs. A lot of chains sold are the "highway type" which means they do not have cross links because they are designed for turf type tires or tires like they use on skid steers, trucks, graders, etc. These tires do not have high lugs like regular farm tires.

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RustyFarmall

10-28-2005 08:59:52

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to CEB, 10-28-2005 08:09:55

Yep, definately need chains, CEB has it right, you need the field type chains, not road chains.

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old

10-28-2005 07:56:32

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 07:47:29

Haveing chains some times are little or no help. Most of the time I don't put my chains on. Also depends on wheater you are pushing the snow with a front blade or a rear blade. I use a 9 foot wide V plow on the front end loader so I don't need the chains because the snow is gone by the time the rear tires hit it.

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Jim_bobb

10-28-2005 08:15:06

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to old, 10-28-2005 07:56:32

It has a 6' snowblade attached to a front loader.

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old

10-28-2005 08:59:21

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 08:15:06

Well as long as its wide enough that your rear tires aren't running in the snow then I wouldn't think you would need chains unless of course you have ice under the snow. Thats the only time I ever put the chains on. Shoot and even with ice its a crap shoot. Had a guy with a big dozer slide down my hill a couple years ago on the ice. He couldn't even hurt the ice that year.

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toolman

10-28-2005 08:58:38

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Jim_bobb, 10-28-2005 08:15:06

my tractor is useless witout chains, will hardly move itself in the snow little lone push snow, buy some chain add it as a crossover to keep or add to chains from dropping between the treads, mine are like X,s added to the regular chain, will push like a little cat.

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old

10-28-2005 09:03:33

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to toolman, 10-28-2005 08:58:38

Thats sort of funny the only time I ever need chains is on ice and even then they don't help much. Shoot a couple years ago had my neihbor come down with a dozer about the size of a D7 and all he did was slide down the hill. It didn't ever chip the ice any.

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RustyFarmall

10-28-2005 09:18:34

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to old, 10-28-2005 09:03:33

apparently the snow in southern Missouri is quite different from the snow in other parts of country. Here in Iowa the snow will pack down and become just like ice. Even the county road graders wear chains in the winter. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

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BobMo

10-28-2005 11:05:49

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-28-2005 09:18:34

You are correct. Seldom in this area is the ground frozen under a snow blanket. I use a rear mounted blade on a 4 wheel drive tractor and have few problems....

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old

10-28-2005 09:21:46

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to RustyFarmall, 10-28-2005 09:18:34

Ouyr snow here does the same thing but with a front mount 9 foot V plow I push the snow out of the way before the rear tires even see it. Of course maybe thats why I don't need the chains. Plus the tires are full of fluid and I keep a back blade on with 6 85lbs suit case weights on the blade.

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Tim...Ok

10-28-2005 10:09:44

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to old, 10-28-2005 09:21:46

Down here,we just sit at home for a day or two..snow will be all melted off in 3 days tops..LOL I really don't know how you boys up north survive.. :^)

Tim

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wdtom

10-28-2005 17:04:11

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Tim...Ok, 10-28-2005 10:09:44

In southern New England it's not the snow, it's the salt. It eats your vehicle into junk in 10 to 15 years unless you are constantly after it. I have spent more on new (used) vehicles and fighting rust than I care to figure out. I don't mind dealing with snow, sometimes we do get a bit, but I hate what the state and to some extent the town does with salt. Sometimes when the roads dry they are white with salt left on them from salting. Terrible.

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RodinNS

10-28-2005 15:26:16

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Tim...Ok, 10-28-2005 10:09:44

We put the chains on and plow the snow. In our maritime climate, the snow is often heavy and wet, with ample quantities of ice to go along with it. You simply don't move snow without chains. Around here, most would laugh in your face if you suggested running without chains. FWIW, the duo-trac type work well on ag tires, but are a bugger on the road. I just use the old style ladder/cross chain. There isn't a place I won't go with my 3930 FWD. Ice is not a problem with chain. Without..... well you look like a big blue curling stone twirling down the hill. As mentioned, the only thing that travels faster on ice is a D7, and a 9 even faster..... ronning sideways.....BT/DT on a D4. NOT FUNNY.

Rod

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JMS/MN

10-28-2005 11:44:52

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to Tim...Ok, 10-28-2005 10:09:44

You just need to come visit in January, Central MN. Remember third Tuesday in '94, 44 below zero, still had dairy, etc. Knipco was like my puppy dog with a long cord, thawing pipes, silo unloaders, etc. (Yes, you can get the smaller ones up the silo chute when the unloader breaks down!). Cows stayed in that day, though. Found out the fuel man delivered #2, not the #1 I ordered. Friday he filed bankruptcy. In between, I've got the thing in the living room, trying to make it work before I bought REAL #1!.

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dave from MN

10-28-2005 13:15:40

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to JMS/MN, 10-28-2005 11:44:52

JMS, where bouts in central MN are ya? Just curios.

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JMS/MN

10-28-2005 14:03:14

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to dave from MN, 10-28-2005 13:15:40

I don't think all that far north of you-----still in the 'temperate' part of freeze land. Northern Meeker county-..... Just spent a chunk of time trying to figure out spelling of Le Seuer, thinking that is the area you are from- went through bunch of combos, none look right- too lazy to look at a map! Anyway- I'm in northern Meeker County, between STC and LFD. Half hour SW of STC. Central part of God's country!..... even if HE goes to AZ for the winter. Smart people, with no cows to milk- do that!

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dave from MN

10-28-2005 14:48:27

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to JMS/MN, 10-28-2005 14:03:14

I'm bout 15 min east of STC. Pretty much God's country round here also except all the farm land getting lotted off in 2-5 acre homes or being bout up by the 100's by millionaires

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Eric Rylander

10-28-2005 17:35:43

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Re: Tire Chains in reply to dave from MN, 10-28-2005 14:48:27

I'm from southest Todd county, grew up there, still go home to hunt with dad in the fall and my '51 SC Case resides in his shed. Born '67 in St.Cloud.

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