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Patrick Herold

10-25-2005 19:15:02




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The Cops are after me all the time about me driving my tractor. Now they are theatening to give me a ticket for driving on the road because I am not a farmer but I have my tractor license. I can"t find a law saying I can"t drive on the road if I am not a farmer. Should they let me or should I be ticketed.
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Patrick Herold of watertown, Wisconsin




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Robert in W. Mi.

10-27-2005 07:14:02




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
I have a friend who got stopped going to his hunting spot on his 3 wheeler driveing on back roads. The officer told him to push it off the road and he wouldn't give him a ticket. He asked to ride it back home, and the answer was NO!!! This made my friend so mad he soon sold it...

By the next season, he had bought an old 8 speed Wheel Horse garden tractor. He put bigger rubber on it all around with duals on the back, geared it up and hung some racks on it along with a SMV sign. He also hung a john deere fly wheel on the front end to hold it down, and man does that thing ever pull well.

From then on he cruised down the back roads to his hunting spot year after year and was never bothered again!!!

BTW, because of a heard condition he couldn't walk a long distance or drag a deer out.

Robert

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Leland

10-26-2005 20:56:27




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
What would they do if you were driving one of the minny mo um's I belive that was a daul purpose machine ??



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wisconsin cop

10-26-2005 20:13:53




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
Hate to burst your bubble here, but unless you are using it for agriculture or logging, you are SOL. Those are the only exemptions for being able to operate motorized vehicles on the roadway without needing to have them registered.

Also, I would not test the waters too much with your golf carts (or Kawasaki mules, or Polaris Rangers, or those cool Kubota jobs). There is absolutely nothing in the law that says you can hang a slow moving vehicle sign on the back of any of these things and be legal. There are however a lot of laws about things like brakes, lights, safety restraints, tires, etc. that make these things a no-no on the road. Check out chapters 340-346 Wisconsin Statutes for some light reading sometime.

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Jb

10-28-2005 07:39:34




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to wisconsin cop, 10-26-2005 20:13:53  
Appears to me the Wisconsin cops don’t have enough to keep busy and should be concentrating on some serious lawbreakers. Opps, forgot, that might require serious work. They should also try using some common sense. If every law were enforced to the absolute letter, we would all be incarcerated.



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wisconsin cop

10-28-2005 20:47:27




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Jb, 10-28-2005 07:39:34  
Yes, I like all cops routinely set up on rural roadsides, usually in pairs, waiting for the guy driving a Farmall H to come down the road.

After we spike his tires, we interrogate him about how many acres of oats he put in and whether or not he signs for farm use at Fleet Farm.

Here in Wisconsin, we usually hold two to three auctions a year for all the seized "non-ag" tractors and golf carts picked up in these stings. The money we raise goes to the construction of the new detention center for holding repeat offenders, and for buying donuts.

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Yugrotcart

10-26-2005 17:49:40




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
Maybe it's a liability thing. I purchased liability insurance for my tractor so if I'm on the road or at a show and sumpin happens, well, I don't end of looseing my house over a law suit..... ..Very reasonably rates, best to have it.



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Hermit

10-26-2005 11:22:27




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
I would politely and respectfully ask the officer for a reference so you can look it up in the law library. There are thousands upon thousands of laws and regulations on the books and no one can know them all so the officer may be right. Right or wrong, at least you'll know the answer. And remember, the officer works for you so don't be put off in asking him. Good luck.



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marlowe

10-26-2005 09:18:34




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
one more thing did you know that in wi. it [[[is]]] legal yes is legal to drive a golf cart on the road. all you need is a SMV on the back MOST cops don't know this but some big shots in madison got a bill passed so there brat kids can ride them to school. no three or four wheelers but golf carts . but now mopeds are the rage and no lice. needed



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Warren in Wisc.

10-26-2005 11:55:18




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to marlowe, 10-26-2005 09:18:34  
Marlowe,

Do you have a reference on that Wisconsin law? I googled it, but I couldn't come up with anything. I have a golf cart that I drive on a dead end road and have always been concerned that a cop would try to make trouble. I would love to see where I could avoid that with an SMV emblem.
Thanks.



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marlowe

10-26-2005 09:11:10




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
i live in wi. and never hurd of anything like that. what cops.??? some weekend rent a cop?



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Bob M

10-26-2005 07:10:07




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
Licensing issues aside, what about INSURANCE?

Should your tractor be involved in an accident while operating on the road (even if not your fault), without liability and property damage coverage on it you could lose your financial a**.

There's simply too many people looking for a fast buck (and lawyers willing to assist them) to risk running without insurance!



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Ranger

10-26-2005 14:22:44




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Bob M, 10-26-2005 07:10:07  
Your post is the most important one posted of all. Somehow, a lot of us think that we can drive our tractors on the road and our homeowners policy covers us. Not so unless you are actively farming or have coverage that you have arranged. In addition, keep in mind that ANYONE can claim liability damage against ANYONE, ANYTIME they wish.



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wolfman

10-26-2005 16:13:04




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Ranger, 10-26-2005 14:22:44  
You guys are bringing up good points. I'm hoping that my Farmowners Insurance Policy covers me flying down the highway with an 11 ft haybine etc. Guess I'd best dig out the policy & read. Rather dig a ditch by hand! I've heard of antique tractor insurance. Is it liability?



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Coldiron

10-26-2005 06:48:36




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
Different states have different laws regarding use of roads and highways so I would check with the state, county and city regulations. In Wa state it is illegal to impede more than 5 vehicles and you have to pull over to let them pass even if you are driving a car or truck. They have regs on distance from the residence on public roads for tractors also.



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wolfman

10-26-2005 16:18:54




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Coldiron, 10-26-2005 06:48:36  
Pennsylvania Driver's Handbook flat out states that tractors, bicycles, and horses & buggies have the same right to the road as do cars & trucks. However most drivers of cars don't seem to realize this. They do have to have SMV's , lights & reflectors.



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Galen

10-26-2005 06:07:24




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
I have a neighbor, here in Nebraska, that has never had a Driver's Licence (he's in his 80's). He drives his old Farmall everywhere. There was a write-up in the Lincoln newspaper about 10-12 years ago about how he has even driven it there a few times (55 miles one way). We don't need any plates one tractors, just standard safety equipment here. There are a lot of people around (in town and farmers) who drive thier tractors on the road. Cops would get laughed at around here for giving you a ticket for driving one.

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wayne2

10-26-2005 05:45:28




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
I'd take it to court, find citation #,go to library-check it out-subpeona officer(screw up his day also)-might look funny in court(they hate that)Expound on life,liberty and the persuit of happyness!!! Wayne



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Hal/WA

10-26-2005 17:15:37




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to wayne2, 10-26-2005 05:45:28  
On the other hand, the officer would probably be paid overtime for his court appearance, not a bad deal for him. But few people, officers included, like to appear stupid in court.

I would suggest respectfully asking the officer what actual law he is referring to, and just how you can find it in your state's traffic or other laws. The officer might be right..... but I suspect he is "blowing smoke".

Obviously if a tractor driver has or causes an accident or other problem, there might be a good reason for a citation to be issued. Negligent driving, reckless driving and possibly obstructing traffic come to mind. But just driving a tractor down the road, minding your own business and not causing trouble for other drivers is permissible in my state. The question of insurance coverage, if there should happen to be a problem, is a good one, and one I will talk to my insurance man about.

Generally I seldom ever take my tractor on the public road. But once I drove a tractor home about 20 miles, because I didn't have a trailer that it would fit on. No problems for me or anyone else, it just took awhile at less than 10 mph. I had to pull off the road to let traffic pass a few times, but that was only being neighborly. Good luck!

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Randy SE-MN

10-26-2005 05:20:20




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
In Minnesota,I think the law says (re: DWI)you cannot opetate ANY MOTORIZED VEHICLE, including a lawn tractor...



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Robert in W. Mi.

10-27-2005 07:20:16




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Randy SE-MN, 10-26-2005 05:20:20  
Same thing here in Mi.



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Ask

10-26-2005 03:44:20




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
Ask them to show you the law that says you can't drive your tractor. Over the years I've known several non-farmers that drove tractors to and around town with only a slow moving vehicle plate. Also, we have amish not so far from here- they're just as much nuisance on the road as anything and more messy besides.



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Ken Crisman

10-25-2005 20:31:54




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
If it's got plates on it , how can they fine you ? I'd fight it if it happened to me . It's probably a rookie cop wanting to make aname for himself . I'd driven mine through town a few times with only the orange triangle & flashers working . Guys participating in the 4 H tractor pulls drives theirs through town with no problems . Check with the stae police . Enjoy your tractor & fight for your freedom . They're working at controlling our firearms & next our tractors . Ken

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Eldon (WA)

10-25-2005 19:48:23




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
We had a local farmer that lost his license and would drive his tractor to the bar. Sheriff got on his case so he started pulling a wagon with some grain in it and they couldn't stop him.



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wayne2

10-26-2005 05:41:38




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Eldon (WA), 10-25-2005 19:48:23  
I'M sure they could get _hitty enough to write a PUBLIC NUCIANCE Ticket. You must remember laws are written by "Skanky",Smelly Lawyers. who on most part seek public money becoming Rep. & Senators ae to many of em and not enough work-cause the majority of us are law abiding citizens(which is tough enough) LOL Wayne



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Mike (WA)

10-26-2005 08:32:29




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to wayne2, 10-26-2005 05:41:38  
Don't know how it is in your state, but its getting hard to find a lawyer in our state legislature- The laws are mostly made by lobbyists, anymore-



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old

10-25-2005 19:29:33




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
My X brother in law drove a tractor all over town. He lost his liense because of a DWI and bought a tractor and did his familtys shopping and drove it to work for years and never have any problems. He lived in town and didn't do any type of farming. But thats also in Missouri and our laws maybe differant then yours.



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Mike (WA)

10-26-2005 08:29:54




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to old, 10-25-2005 19:29:33  
Old gent in our area took to driving his 8N after he lost his license for DUI- ended up getting another DUI on the tractor. I was a jailer in the county jail (in 1973) when he was serving 6 months. He was a regular around the jail, and they gave him his own key and made him a "trusty" as soon as he came in. I used to talk with him on graveyard shift, when neither of us had anything to do. After he got out, we contracted with somebody to put up our hay on the farm we had just bought, because we didn't have any equipment. I came home from work, and all the grass around the barn, orchard, etc. had been cut- wife said the man who cut the hay had come to the door after finishing the field, and asked if he could mow the farmstead- she asked how much he would charge, and he said, "Oh, nothing- your husband was the only guy who treated me like a human being around the jail."

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Mike M

10-26-2005 04:55:22




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to old, 10-25-2005 19:29:33  
A lady in Ohio years ago drove a tractor around town because of DWI. i think they also got her for DWI on the tractor too !



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Brent in IA

10-26-2005 03:58:32




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to old, 10-25-2005 19:29:33  
In Iowa ANYTHING with a motor needs to be licensed (and safe) and the driver legal to be on the road. Farm tractors & equipment are the exception when on farm business. To prove the point, last year a 12 (or 13 or 14) year old boy was ticketed for driving his electric wheelchair on the road in a smaller town here since it was not approved/road legal and he didn't have a license. The kicker was there wasn't even a sidewalk to be on or he would have been there instead. I never heard how the trial came out because it did go to court. Talk about stupid laws or at least stupid enforcement.

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jfp

10-25-2005 19:40:02




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to old, 10-25-2005 19:29:33  
George Jones did too.



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Davis In SC

10-25-2005 20:48:56




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to jfp, 10-25-2005 19:40:02  
But they arrested George...



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Central WI Larry

10-25-2005 19:20:22




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 Re: tractor driving in reply to Patrick Herold, 10-25-2005 19:15:02  
If you're going to plow the neighbors garden, you should be OK. If you're dropping the kids off at school on your way to the barber shop and then the grocery store, they may be able to make a case. Either way, I admire your affection for your tractor!



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