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What is the name of that big tractor

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kraigwy

10-10-2005 11:31:01




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the white one big foot or something from the montana wheat fields , suppose to be the biggest in the world




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Leland

10-10-2005 18:29:33




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to kraigwy, 10-10-2005 11:31:01  
With fuel at 3.15 per gal I would not even waste time starting one .



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Lloyd Llama

10-10-2005 17:50:09




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to kraigwy, 10-10-2005 11:31:01  
What were the song lyrics, "....give me 40 acres and I'll turn this thing around,...." ?????



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Bob

10-10-2005 11:41:25




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to kraigwy, 10-10-2005 11:31:01  
third party image

Big Bud?

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Janicholson

10-10-2005 19:18:50




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
I post mostly over on the Farmall IH forum, but I have lived in Havre,MT (home of Big Bud). My son sat on the rim of the beast in 97 when it was returned to live in Hill county MT. He was 5 years old, and he had to climb up on the rim and his feet dangled in the air a foot off the ground. It saw time in Texas, and Florida (my source is from one of the builders of the machine). On the Big Bud Web site he is one of the men standing in fromt of the completed machine. This thing is awsome. it will pull more at the drawbar than it weighs. It is disassembled and put on a rail flat car to move it any distance. It lives on "ffaarrmmss" in the neighborhood of 30,000 acres, dryland wheat. The most wheat producing county in the U.S. (according to Hill COunty Ag Professionals)
Jim Nicholson, St Cloud, MN

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Hugh MacKay

10-11-2005 02:43:46




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Janicholson, 10-10-2005 19:18:50  
Jim: Most tractors will pull more on the drawbar than their own weight. When I was a teenager back in the 50s, we had rather simple tractor pulls. Just a flat bottom stone boat made out of a sheet of 4' x 10' x 1/2" steel plate. It was turned up on both ends and reinforced around the perimeter with angle iron. We used boxes of sand for additional weight, (100# and 200# sizes) and these were loaded manually at the pullers request. You could pull as long as you could start away and move the drag 6'. The winner was the tractor that could pull the highest percentage of its own weight using a 4' chain stone boat to drawbar. Most tractors will come in between 2.5 and 3 times their own weight. Back in those days the hard tractors to beat were Farmalls Super A and H or Super and Cockshutt 20 and 30. I've seen many a red faced guy leave the track with Farmall M, big 6 cylinder Olivers, Cockshutts and Masseys.

I have done this with my Super A on numerous ocasions. The interesting senario, is I can achive the highest percentage with no wheel weights or clacium chloride. Now I realize it would be quite expensive to build a stone boat and weights for these big articulated tractors, and no one is probably going to do the comparison with a Super A. I have reason to believe those articulated tractors are indeed pulling as much as 4 to 5 times their own weight.

As for loading on a rail car to move any distance, I question any need. There are low bed tractor trailers out there today capable of moving 120,000 lbs. payload. Someone brought one of those Big Buds to a plowing match here in Ontario. When it left the show it was hauled away by a 4 axle highway tractor and 4 axle trailer. The only diassembly they did was remove the duals and place them on trailer behind and in front of tractor. I have a couple of photos of me standing beside Big Bud, and this one was the 700 hp Cummins version. I would put it in at 50,000# to 60,000# tops. I've hauled enough heavy equipment in my day to call that one.

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Paul Shuler

10-11-2005 16:28:34




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-11-2005 02:43:46  
Hugh, from the photo I can't figure out how to mount my belly mower to big bud? I think I would have to trim up some trees also.



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Hugh MacKay

10-11-2005 17:49:15




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Paul Shuler, 10-11-2005 16:28:34  
Paul: How many 60" belly mowers did you say that was? I think there would be room for about 3 in the middle, and since it is articulated the wheel track mowers will have to go on front, two on each side, then you could have trailing wings at rear. About 13 0r 15 mowers I figure.

Would kind of look like a mower tractor my brother once geared up. He had an IH 154 Loboy with belly mower and 4 - 24" push mowers behind, two on each side. He was planning to hitch a trailer behind in middle for an onboard serviceman. Needed the serviceman to keep those push mowers all going. About that time a Real Estate agent made an offer on the 5 acre property with 70' inground pool.

His next house was built on 1/2 acre with no pool, and he still has the Loboy, no push mowers. His other 4 brothers, myself included, teased quite readily, how he turned himself into a slave to that 5 acres of grass and the pool. Not quite sure which created the most work for him, grass or the pool. Technically I was the only one self employed, but Ed. was close.

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Brent in IA

10-11-2005 03:39:45




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Hugh MacKay, 10-11-2005 02:43:46  
I think Jim is referring to the BIGGEST of the Big Bud line, there was once asingle Big Bud made that was way huger (is that a word?) than the "normal" Big Bud tractors. It has been in several parts of the US but a few years back it was brought back to Montana and rebuilt and is in use on a farm there now. Not sure about moving it by rail, but there is a model called the "Biggest Big Bud" that put out 900 HP. This is from the Big Bud website:

"In 1978 Northern Manufacturing built the "Biggest Big Bud" ever made, the 16v-747. Powered by a Detroit Diesel 16 cylinder engine with a Twin Disc power shift transmission, it currently puts out 900 HP. The tractor was special ordered by Rossi Farms of California and was the 16th unit manufactured in 1978 by Northern. The serial number is 7816. The tractor has had two owners since it left California, Willow Brook Farms of Palm City, Florida and its current owners, the Williams Brothers (Randy & Robert) of Big Sandy, MT."

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Kevin Bismark

10-10-2005 18:43:42




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
got to love it, would love this tractor, but wouldn"t want to pay for the fuel it burns, makes that 90 series john deere look small...



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Larry-tx

10-10-2005 16:21:59




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
The company I retired from had 2 Big Buds. One pulled a 55 ft. tandem disc, 2nd one pulled 80 ft. spring tooth with 80 ft. of john deere grain drill behind. That was a real sight to see. Larry



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Rich Iowa

10-10-2005 16:20:44




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
Sure it"s big, but can it handle a square baler and a rack? How bout a 9 foot 3pt sickle mower? :) Rich



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Thomas..NH

10-10-2005 13:33:47




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
Yikes.. now thats what I want for Chirstmas. :o)



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hardscrabble

10-10-2005 17:37:05




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Thomas..NH, 10-10-2005 13:33:47  
They DO make a toy Big Bud. Almost as awesome as the real thing!



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JMS/MN

10-10-2005 11:49:28




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to Bob, 10-10-2005 11:41:25  
Big Bud is right- Roy is just a wimp at 600hp. lol. Bud kicks in around 700 hp, but with the 16cyl Detroit, can max at about 1100. Same engine as on the Cedar Rapids rock crusher I used to work with. It's a screamer!!!!!



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thejdman01

10-10-2005 19:38:31




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 10-10-2005 11:49:28  
all 2 stroke detroits were screamers cant mistake that sound for any other motor. back in the 80's not one of the huge big buds if i remember right 40/50???? model was around here (northern illiois) melvin banks was demoing it. it had an 1150 cummins in it. personally that would be my choice if i had one of those tractors would have to have the 1150 cummins in it. i hate getting old i hate it i cannot remember what he had to have done to it hoever i do remember him getting engine work done to it and remember them taking the hood off and the motor came out "on a crate". real nice to work on

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KPL

10-10-2005 16:00:17




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to JMS/MN, 10-10-2005 11:49:28  
The big bud had 700 hp out of the factory. The Williams Bros. cranked it up to about 900 hp. They are the kind of guys who like things to have more power and go faster.



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Allan in NE

10-10-2005 11:35:02




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 Re: What is the name of that big tractor in reply to kraigwy, 10-10-2005 11:31:01  
Big Bud?

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