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Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming

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Allan in NE

10-08-2005 16:15:44

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Hi Guys,

Just put my wife in the hospital with 5 broken ribs, broken collarbone and a dislocated shoulder. They are concerned about a collapsed lung and pneumonia.

You guessed it; that darned horse! And to top it off, I was the feller that shook him out before I let her on him.

I dunno, you just assume that everyone knows this country stuff; it just ain't so. My fault, I never should have let her up on him 'til he was good and muscle tired, I guess. :>(

Allan

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Jim.UT

10-11-2005 15:35:17

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

I'm late reading this. I've been really busy and away from the board lately.

First: 5 broken ribs! OUCH! That's gonna hurt for a while. Try not to be too funny until the ribs heal up some. Laughing can be very painful.

Second: I hope you'll be OK, too, while the cook is laid up. My wife has had some sort of croup/pneumonia for the last 2 weeks and meals at our house are hard to come by.

Third: I'll be praying for you both.

Jim.UT

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JDB

10-10-2005 10:22:28

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Praying for both of you

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fixerupper

10-09-2005 16:34:59

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

It hurts just to read your story. That must be really painful. Sounds like you are in some pain yourself. My prayers are with both you and your wife.

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DigDugNC

10-09-2005 12:30:06

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear about your wife's injuries, I hope she recovers quickly.

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T_Bone

10-09-2005 10:03:52

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Hi Allan,

Hope your wife gets to feeling better soon.

I too got on to a kick a couple years ago and wanted to buy a couple horses, yearlings, and teach them to pull carts, but my wife has been fightening me tooth and toe nail as horses scare her to ride, she's afraid of heights hence the cart idea.

After reading thru the responses you have received, I see that my wife had more insight than I may have on the subject.

T_Bone

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Mike (WA)

10-09-2005 09:47:09

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Wishing your wife a speedy recovery. I haven't read all the posts, but may I suggest "round penning", ala Dennis Reis and the others who are perennielly on the RFD channel. Its the "horse whisperer" thing- you basically get the horse to submit, then they just want to please you rather than fight. Sounded goofy to me at first, but it works. My wife continues to break a couple every year (we're 57 now, and she has been at this for 30 years), and to my knowledge, she has never been thrown. It not only works for initially training, but for periodic "tune-ups" when they get a little owly.

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CLK n Cypress

10-09-2005 09:33:44

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan, Just got in and I'm so sorry to hear what happened. Try your best not to be so hard on yourself cause you know she needs you to be strong for her. Know that you and yours are in our prayers! CK

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Mr. Wilson

10-09-2005 08:38:25

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

So sorry. Misread post. I had one broken rib many years ago and one cannot imagine the pain that goes with it,much less 5. Hope your wife will be ok and is receiving proper care.

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TRC

10-09-2005 08:06:12

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

I certainly wish her well and hope she can recover very quickly. I think we sometimes forget that anything we do in life has some element of danger and we need to have a healthy respect for equipment and animals.

My prayers and thoughts are with you both.

Tim

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10-09-2005 07:48:00

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Very sorry to hear that Allen. Know that her and you are in our thoughts and prayers. Hopefully she will be back to full power and can put all this behind her real soon. Don

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Coldiron

10-09-2005 07:43:22

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Ooooops in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen, Sorry, missed the explanation of how it happend with the sliding stop. If she had thrown her feet forward and had her stirrups positoned right she would have sat deeper in the saddle and kept her balance. The sliding stop is a lot of fun to do if done right and to do a rollback with a couple of 360`s at the end of it makes it even more fun. Get her some lessons and pray hard like the rest of us that she never gets busted up again.

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Coldiron

10-09-2005 07:17:12

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Been around horses and trail riding for over 40 yrs. I have had quite a few friends hurt. The horse threw your wife for a reason. May be it just didnt want to go the route she wanted or didnt want to leave it`s comfortable surroundings, bee stings or just danged mean. If the horse needs to be bucked out to ride I would sell it to a trainer and take the loss. Two friends were severely injured earlier in July when Breeze threw Susan and broke her leg. Barbara got off her horse to help Susan when Breeze spun and kicked Barbara with both feet one hitting her in the left shoulder and the other hit her in the side of the head. Their husbands had to get Barbara and Susan back on their horses and ride several miles to a landing where a helicopter could get Barbara out of the hills. They almost lost Barb but she is getting better. Susan always rides with a loose rein which allows the horse to get it`s head down and buck. They can not buck if the head is kept up. They can dance around and give the rider heartburn but they can not buck with the head up. Spurs are cheap insurance. If the horse does something you dont like, turn it in tight circles or back it for about twenty feet, two things they dont like. Every time you ride a horse you are training it, and it either learns good things or bad things. They associate uncomfortable with the action you are punishing them for but the punishment has to be immediate to the action. Try to keep them on the good side. Make sure your bride wears a helmet. One saved my wifes life 6 yrs ago. Crushed the helmet and she still had a concussion. Horse got wire around its fetlock and freaked out while the wife had a loose rein.

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Scotmac

10-09-2005 07:08:43

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan....our thoughts and prayers are with you. Hope the Mrs. gets along okay. She was fortunate...last year I had a good friend have the same thing happen, and he broke his back. Now he is in a wheel chair. Take them dadburn things to the Elmer's factory!

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Jay (ND)

10-09-2005 06:56:05

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

May she have a speedy recovery. It may be quite a while (a year or more) before she is able to do much riding again. When I was 14, I had similar injuries (one rib went through my lung and exited out my back) from a motorcycle accident. Took me over a year before I could ride for more than 15 minutes without being in a world of pain. It did get me out of mowing lawn though..... ..

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Mike M

10-09-2005 06:46:24

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear about your wife,hope she gets well soon. I only know 1 thing about horses,they are the most unpredictable thing around. Women are 2nd on the list. That's why I like my tractors they do what YOU tell them to and don't complain.

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farmweld

10-09-2005 06:09:05

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

sorry to hear about the accident. with todays doctors and technology, shell be ridin again in no time. dont beat yourself up over it. horses after all have a brain of their own.

i have worked with horses for about 10 years, and all my family knows that at least once a year, i will come in hurt. just make sure that it dosent scare her off, then the horse wins. ShepFL had some good ideas, for after recovery attitude adjustment of said horse.

prayers and hope for speedy recovery
farmweld

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John A.

10-09-2005 05:56:42

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan, I am so sorry Mrs. Allan has gotten hurt by this horse. Will keep Her and You in our prayers. May she have a speedy recovery. Sound like the horse did just like he was suppose too. and the Mrs just didn't have a "deep enough seat". I know that this isnt what you want to hear right now but ....When the Mrs. is well he HAS to get back up this horse. for at least a little while. If not the accident will win and she will or might have a fear that she can't overcome.
Maybe there is some place, or someone local that can give her lessons. There are several places around here that do that. If she was ridding a westen saddle....Lengthen out those strups a hole or 2.
Again accidents happen, sometimes there was no one or thing at fault. A relation with a horse is a special thing. It takes time to develope. I pray your wife gets well very soon. Don't keep beating yourself up. In Christian Love,
Later,
John A.

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jfp

10-09-2005 05:13:11

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Just got back and saw the post. Looks like we're all pullin & prayin for her. I wonder if when she gets well, that she'll want to ride again? If she does I'd say she's very confident and determined, But I guess only time will tell.

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Jimmy King

10-09-2005 05:12:24

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan, don"t beat your self up, over it. We will keep you wife and you in our prayers, Jim

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evielboweviel

10-09-2005 05:08:26

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

hang in there. She will heal up ok and then you can get her an easier horse to ride.
Good luck
Ron

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KEH

10-09-2005 05:06:21

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan, Sorry about the accident, hope your wife recovers soon. Can't give you any advice since I'm not a horse owner, just good wishes.

KEH

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Thomas..NH

10-09-2005 04:51:53

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Speedy recovery and short hospital stay.
By what I've read indeed it wasn't your fault by any means..your dealing w/animal.

Thinking of you both.

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Vern-MI

10-09-2005 04:29:54

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear about Susan's mishap Allan. May she have a speedy recovery and no lasting effects. Can't blame the horse as they are just animals.

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SteveinCT

10-08-2005 23:40:30

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

God bless you both and a speedy recovery to your wife. Please don't blame yourself. It was my fault cause I didn't warn you.

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37 chief

10-08-2005 22:22:07

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan sorry to hear about your wife. With the doctors and the knowledge they have now days she will be ok real soon. My 33 year old daughter has been aroung horses all her life, and spent over two hours on the operating table today. The doctors were putting her ankle back together. She was out riding, and her horse tripped and fell on her breaking her ankle in three places. You just never know about those horses. Stan in calif.

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Allan in NE

10-09-2005 00:05:53

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to 37 chief, 10-08-2005 22:22:07

Hi Stan and all,

No, I can't lay this one on the horse.

Totally my fault as Susan was orphaned when she was 13 years old and has been carrying around this memory of her folks giving her riding lessons when she was a kid. Since that time, she has wanted a horse again.

I knew she wasn't in control of the animal from the first time I saw her up a few weeks ago, but she had her heart set on this registered cutter so I bought it for her. Should have gotten her an old plug, I guess. Also, I should have aired him out a little more before turning him over to her, but I just took it for granted that she knew how to handle him.

Anyway, he got away from her and when she hollered "whoa" at a full bore stride, he set it down and went into his slide just like he had been taught. She went right over the top and came down vertical on that shoulder.

Thanks for all your kind thoughts; she will really appreciate it.

Allan

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Glen in TX

10-08-2005 21:40:52

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen, I'm sorry to hear about that and my thoughts and prayers are with you and the wife and wishing her a speedy recovery. Glen

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Galen

10-08-2005 21:31:07

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear about the Mrs. Prayers for you both. Got an address so's we can all mail G.W.Q. cards?

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Dug

10-08-2005 21:18:30

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen,

Sorry to hear it! Prayers for you and your wife...

Dug

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wayne2

10-08-2005 21:05:38

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen, Sorry as all heck man!!! but remember the human body is a self healing mechanism6-8 wks for ribs and you'll see vast improvent(maybe a smile again) Tuff it out be there. I seperated my wife and her horse by moving 320 miles to new place w/out fences-but after SHE puts the fence in sure as heck. oh well. My Prayers Wayne

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mlm

10-08-2005 20:58:24

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Body armour really helps, like police bullet proof vest. Saves the ribs. Not kidding.

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Mr. Wilson

10-08-2005 20:22:43

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Got any pictures of the horsey?

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steveormary

10-08-2005 20:13:54

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan,You and your wife are in our prayers. Several years ago I had two friends who were injured in motorcycle accidents. And one neighbor injured while riding her horse. So you never know.

steveormary

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Mr. Wilson

10-08-2005 19:32:34

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Got any pictures of the horsey?

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Bartt

10-08-2005 19:19:12

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen, Sorry to hear of this misfortune. I"m sure she will get back on her feet soon. I grew up with forty five riding horses. Been bit, reared over on, run away with, kicked more than a few times and a few other things. Sometimes a milder mannered horse is in order. The very best wishes to you and yours an keep us updated. Hang in there. I still ride every chance I get.

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Rauville

10-08-2005 19:15:26

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan;
My thoughts are with both of you. My Wife has always had horses, yet she has came home from riding so beat up looking that I've been afraid someone would report me for spousal abuse. Things happen...usually around horses!
You folks take care, and maybe buy a Chihuahua instead.

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Mr. Wilson

10-08-2005 19:13:07

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Got any pictures of the horsey?

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Island A

10-08-2005 19:03:04

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allan I am truly sorry to hear that your wife is in the Hospital. I am sure she will have a complete and speedy recovery. And then she will get back on the horse again. At least we should all hope she will. Don't blame yourself or let this incident stop you from enjoying your farm, or stop your wife from enjoying her horse. If you spend your whole life living in fear of what bad might happen then you will not ever enjoy yourself.
You take care and keep us posted on the wife's recovery.
Dave

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kraigWY

10-08-2005 18:38:02

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

My prayers for your wife and you too. I understand you blaming your self, I was there twice. I let her buy and ride a green broke horse which promply broke her back. A bit later after they took the rods out she was activated (Army Reserve) agains doctors orders I agreed with her to not fight the deployment, where as she broke her back again in Kuwait. I could have and should have provented both but we cant put them in bubbles. Wives seem to have a mind of their own.

God Bless you and your wife.
k

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10-08-2005 18:32:36

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Got a couple LDAs (aka: Large Dangerous Animals, aka: HORSES) myself and so far my wife still rides them after 3 or 4 trips to the hospital, one session of surgery, much rehab and numerous bruises and strains. I don't know which of us is dumber: her for still riding or me for not getting rid of them. Oh well, she gets her lumps her way and I get mine my way!
Hope your wife mends quickly and well. :-)

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Blue guy from a red state

10-08-2005 18:09:33

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear about your wife. I hope she has a fast recovery. I bought a motorcycle awhile back. An older rider told me there was two kind of riders, the one thats laid a bike down and the one thats going to lay one down. I fit in the first category now. At least she can blame it on the horse. :>)

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ShepFL

10-08-2005 18:04:56

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen -
Sorry to hear of the Mrs. getting pretty banged up. Prayers are with you and her.

Having grown up around horses all my formative yrs. and early adulthood I can assure you horses and broken bones are synonomous. I can also assure you she will most likely come back more determined to ride him.

I for one have broken my RH arm 3x, LH arm 2x, RH leg 2x and LH 2x all from "breakin horses". Got so good at it I decided I would do rodeo as an occupation :) Went to District Championships (bulls) and flopped - so ended my rodeo career.

Sounds like a green horse or high strung. Might want to consider getting a walker for the horse to keep him toned up while wife heals up. Generally once a horse learns it can throw it you, they will try again. Have the Mrs. work him on the walker and a lunge line so he understands who is the BOSS.

Also consider saddling him up and put him on the walker for a "brisk" and "taxing" workout before her next ride - ol hoss should be pretty tired by then and not as flighty.

HTH and wishing for a speedy recovery.

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Sloroll

10-08-2005 17:53:46

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

My whole hearted prayers are with your wife. Don't beat yourself up. As adults we all make decisions some good some bad. He!! you wouldn't have let her on if you knew what would happen. Watch those silly equine around the grand kids Allan, It is one thing to grow up with livestock and another to be introduced to Sherman tanks with bunny rabbit brains.

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Keith-OR

10-08-2005 17:38:12

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Allen, our prayers are with your wife and you. No need to beat up on yourself about what has happened. I have been riding since I was able to walk, still cannot predict what those 4 legged critters will do. All one can hope for is everything comes out alright and learns from past experiences. When I was young and foolish, horse caught me off guard put off on my head, I was in a comma for over a week, At the time did not teach me a thing...God Bless Keith

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dave from MN

10-08-2005 17:34:08

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sending out a prayer for your wife. Hope she has a speedy recovery with no complications. I gotta buy some dog food in the am . I am sure there must be a demand for that horse, how to they taste if ya age them a month or so? Daughter wants one also, so far wife is backing the big NO!

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Old Pokey

10-08-2005 17:31:40

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Sorry to hear that Allan. I hope she'll be ok. Actually I'm sure she will be. With a caring husband like you around her, she'll be back in the saddle in no time. You should'nt blame your self for being a generous human being that just wanted to see your wife as happy as she can be.

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Mark - IN.

10-08-2005 17:27:36

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Well Allan, I sure hope she'll be ok, and suppose she will. Certainly do hope so.

As a kid growing up, we didn't have horses, but the cousins all did. My aunt's "Nugget" threw her about the same, and she got hurt about the same. After he got home from visiting my aunt in the hospital, my uncle took Nugget by the bit, and hauled off like he was coming from Georgia with that punch in the nose, which was a long ways to Indiana. Nugget took a few steps back and a few snorts later, shook it off. My uncle broke his hand and knocked his shoulder out. That was a punch. When my aunt got out of the hospital, she got right back up on Nugget and rode him for years.

My ex-girlfriend's been thrown a number of times too over the years. It'll always be up to them Allan, if you know what I mean. Their horses, their calls, not ours. At times, we need to keep quite and follow their lead.

Good luck buddy. My prayers, and wish her well. And, don't break your hand. Might seem like the thing to do at the time, not afterwards.

Mark

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10-08-2005 17:08:04

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Know the feeling Allen.My wife wont give up on this crazy mare she has,even the trainer that had her for two months told her give it up,said she would make a good rodeo horse. Well after a broken foot and a shattered knee(I wanted to kill it I swear)my wife wont give up on an animal,that crazy mare will be here as long as my wife is. All I can say is try and be more careful and I wish your wife a speedy recovery.
Stan

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Jimont

10-08-2005 16:43:40

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Our thoughts and prayers are with both you and your wife Allan. Don't beat yourself up about this setback ----- you've been in this old farmin' game long enough to know that these things happen to even the most experienced livestock people !! Our neighbour who has been breeding world-wide championship Herefords and Simitel for years was really worked over two years ago by a bull he had worked with for years -- just never saw it coming!! Hang in there!!

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Bigdog

10-08-2005 16:21:15

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:15:44

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and the wife Allan. Maybe when she heals she won't beat you up too badly.

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Allan in NE

10-08-2005 16:27:27

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Bigdog, 10-08-2005 16:21:15

Aw heck,

Sure ain't lookin' fer sympathy or anything like that. Just beatin' myself up fer not putting a stop to this nonsense a long time ago.

But, whadda gonna do? She never asks fer nothin' and I just wanted her to have her silly horse that's she's been dreamin' about.

Allan

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Jeff Oliver

10-08-2005 18:09:05

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:27:27

Don't be beating yourself up, I used to ride horsess and there is no way to know what one of them will do at anytime. I had one that wouldn't hurt a flea and you could hang 10 kids on him. He spooked one day and threw me but that just happens no matter how much you try to avoid it.

Got away from them and ride motorcycles now. They can't think for themselves but still dangerous. I know of few people who ride horses that haven't been thrown, kinda goes with the territory.

Hope she gets better soon and we're sending prayers for her.

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Stickler

10-08-2005 16:54:18

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Allan in NE, 10-08-2005 16:27:27

My thoughts are with you both. I wonder if this'll scare her off? Not likely. I bet it's more like having a bad motorcycle accident, it only scares away people that never should have been on one anyway.

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Harley

10-09-2005 06:27:45

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Re: Phooey! Should Have Seen This One Coming in reply to Stickler, 10-08-2005 16:54:18

Hey old buddy, that's just what happened around here. The wife remembered how much fun horses were way back when, then a fall, a broken pelvis, cracked vertebrae, and now no more horses. We're praying for the little missus and you. Gonna cover you up with work now, huh. Know she will get better. She has to, to take care of you. Love ya both, Harley

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