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2030 fuel guage

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tgindiana

10-06-2005 07:19:01




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What is the trick to repairing fuel guage on 2030 diesel. I replaced the sending unit in the tank with a NEW unit from my JD dealer. (0 ohms empty tank 30 ohms full)He insists it is the right one for my tractor. I have tried three different guages in the dash and they all act the same. With the tank FULL the guage shows 1/4, thats as high as it will go. Part numbers on all three guages are the same and JD dealer insists they are the right ones for a 2030. I have checked all wiring for grounds, shorts, etc. and can"t find anything wrong. Can anybody suggest what to check next?

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tgindiana

10-12-2005 07:06:22




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 Re: 2030 fuel guage in reply to tgindiana, 10-06-2005 07:19:01  
Thanks Bob, for the suggestions. I ran a seperate ground back to the battery ground for the sending unit. (The new sender I purchased is not in the tank yet) And checked the ground for the guage. It is OK. The guage ground wire goes to the alternator and is grounded to the alternator housing. (I think because it is closer to the fuel tank??) The guage connections are clearly marked and there is 12.3 volts at the guage.
When I ground the sender wire the guage reads EMPTY. and with 30 ohms connected to the sender and ground It reads 1/4. when the sender wire is not connected the guage is pegged (FULL). I tried all three guages I have and they all act the same. 1/4 full is max that guage will read with 30 ohms connected. I tried more resistance in the line and I can make the guage read higher which tells me the guages are OK and the sending unit may be the wrong one? Problem is the sender is new and JD dealer insists it is correct one. The guages are all used, and one was supposed to come off of a 2030 according to ASAP in Downing , Wis. I am not familiar with jdparts.com so here goes. My tractor serial number is 150743L,TYPE 2030, CODE 2030A and was mfg. in Germany. Engine serial number is 189559CD, TYPE 4219GL and was mfg. in France.
New sender part number is AT20912, and guage part number is AL24187.
The sender is ZERO ohms when float is down (tank empty)and 30 ohms when raised(tank full). I realize this is opposite from most fuel guages, but that is how this unit works. Thanks again.

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Bob

10-06-2005 10:04:00




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 Re: 2030 fuel guage in reply to tgindiana, 10-06-2005 07:19:01  
Try running a good jumper wire from a good, clean ground to one of the screws holding the sender to the tank, to ensure that the actual sender is grounded, and see if that helps. (Doubtfull, if the sensor Ohms readings function as you have posted.)

For the gauge to function properly, the sender must have a good ground, and if the tank mounts are painted, rusty, or corroded, you may not have a good ground, messing up the function of the sender.

Also, be sure full battery voltage is getting to the gauge.

Also, the gauge itself must be grounded, either through the metal of the dashboard, or some have an actual ground terminal that a good ground wire must be connected to. I don't specifically know how a 2030 is set up.

Also, make absolutely sure the connections on the gauge are correct. There will be a terminal for 12-Volt power, a terminal for the sender connection, and possibly a ground.

If none of this helps, get a 30-Ohm resistor, 5 Watts or so.

Remove wire at sender. Touch it to a good ground. Based on what you said about the sender, the gauge should now read "EMPTY". Then put the 30-Ohm resistor in series between the wire and ground. The gauge should now read "full". If the gauge reads as described, the gauge and wiring are OK, and there is a sender problem. If the gauge DOES NOT read as it's supposed to, with the sender wire grounded, and grounded through the resistor, it's a gauge or wiring problem.

(As a footnote, MOST fuel gauges read "FULL" when the sender wire is grounded, and then the reading drops as the resistance increases, indicating the fuel level dropping.

GM was noted for doing it the opposite, as well as SOME Deeres. On certain Deere models, there is a serial # break before and after which the sender function is just the opposite.

If none of this helps, post back with the seial number, and the country where it was built, and the part numbers of the gauge and sender you have. A quick check of jdparts.com shows two different versions of the 2030, with one being built in Spain, with different electrical parts.

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Mike M

10-06-2005 07:49:41




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 Re: 2030 fuel guage in reply to tgindiana, 10-06-2005 07:19:01  
If you take the sender out ground it and work it by hand through the full movement does the gauge follow it ? If it is than maybe some rebending of the arm may fix it ?



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