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9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value?

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Todd Higgins

10-02-2005 19:51:37

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Whoops, sorry for the cross post, I didn't realize I had posted this to the implement forum.

I'm looking at a 9N with a Dearborn loader(tag says 19-60) and a 501 ford mower. The tractor is in _bad_ need of paint,(it looks as old as it is!) but otherwise seems solid. It starts easy, didn't smoke, didnt miss at all and the sheet metal is straight and solid. The motor looks pretty dry, as in not a lot of oil leaks. The steering is tight, it has one fairly new rear rim and the tires are all old, but ok. The loader is rusty(surface rust) but is straight and not bent up and goes up and down fine. The 501 is fairly rusty but doesn't look hurt to my novice eye. The guy wants $2000 for it all and won't budge.

This would be my first farm tractor. We just bought an old farm house on 10 acres and I want an old tractor. I like old things. But farm tractors are new to me. I've fooled with 60s Wheel Horse's and Cub Cadets, but the bigger tractors are new territory for me. Is $2000 fair?
Thanks folks!

Todd in KY

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Hal/WA

10-03-2005 16:16:24

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Todd Higgins, 10-02-2005 19:51:37

That would be a good buy in Eastern Washington. While the 9N leaves much to be desired compared to most later tractors in terms of features,it was very sophisticated for its day. N parts availability is great and there are lots of them out there if you should need an unusual part. The loader is probably a trip bucket type, but once you get used to them, they work OK and are a huge amount better than no loader at all. If the mower operates it is probably worth at least $300 and the 501 is considered to be a pretty good mower.

It sounds like a great first tractor to me. You could do a lot of work with that combination and also have a neat unit to fix up. I'd jump on it if I needed one!

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dhermesc

10-03-2005 07:02:07

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Todd Higgins, 10-02-2005 19:51:37

I agree with Galen, thats a pretty fair price for all three items. On a good day he could easily get that for just the 9N - even if it does need paint.

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Galen

10-03-2005 05:45:12

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Todd Higgins, 10-02-2005 19:51:37

In Nebraska, if the mower is in good, usable shape it's worth about $600, theloader is worth about $400, so that leaves about $1000 for the tractor. A good running 9N around here will bring $1500 to $2000. Don't know about Kentucy, but from what I've seen, things are a little higher there. The 9N is a good machine, but lacks live PTO and live Hydraulics. The first thing you need to buy is an "Over running Clutch(ORC)" for the PTO. Should be a good machine for you!

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Todd Higgins

10-03-2005 18:43:04

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Galen, 10-03-2005 05:45:12

Well, it's got what the guy called a "ratchet clutch" on the PTO. Is that the same thing? Like I said, this is all new to me. I drove it around the field for about 20 mins today. It ran, drove and stopped without doing anything weird. It seems ok.

It does need paint in the worst way, but the thing about trying to paint it is the loader gets in the way.

I realize a 9N is not the most desirable tractor on earth, but it does have the classic N looks and I just need one for a little mowing and horse manure duty, nothing major. I have a creek that runs through the middle of my 10 acres and the sickle mower will make keeping it trimmed up easier.

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Galen

10-03-2005 19:08:51

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Todd Higgins, 10-03-2005 18:43:04

What he's calling a "racheting clutch" SHOULD be an ORC. With the tractor not running, and the PTO off, grab the PTO shaft with you hand. Try to turn it - if it won't turn in one direction, but turns the other - then you have an ORC. It will make a racheting sound as it turns. The ORC slides over the end of the PTO shaft. The 9N is a great little machine - it revolutionisd the tractor world. Sure, there are more modern, bells & whistles tractors out there, but the old N's will do more than people give them credit for. I have other, larger tractors, but I love my 8N the most. It's more manuverable, smaller, more agile, comfortable, and easy to use than the others. Wouldn't trade it for anything - except another one! BIL has a $23,000 yuppie tractor that has bells & whistles, but can't do a lot of things the N's can do - it's only advantage is live PTO and live Hyds. My N has already been working for 55 years - thats about 45 longer than his will last (if he's lucky). He only paid about $21,500 more than I did, so I guess he's happy! 8^) Anyhoo - have fun with it and be careful!

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JrH

11-06-2005 08:15:37

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Re: 9N,Dearborn Loader and 501 mower package value in reply to Galen, 10-03-2005 19:08:51

I was just reading your posting on your 9N and had to laugh. I had no idea there were so many N sites or such a collection of N lovers. My 9N was purchased by my grandfather new, #44863. Worked his small chicken and sheep ranch until he retired and now works what I retained. Thy "yuppie" who purchased 5ac of the ranch has his fancy $17K used ford tractor with all the fancy stuff. I just love it when I go to the barn to fire up the N and he makes some comment like "how long has it been sitting, bet it won"t start". Oh she has been sitting for about a month, no problem. I just smile, brush off the cobwebs, turn on the gas, turn the key and listen for that click, make sure she is in neutral, a little gas, push the button and off she fires, nurse the choke a bit and let her idle for about 4 minutes and drive off. Now that yuppie tractor, well lets just say he must thank the ford God that they have mobile service trucks.

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