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gaurded

09-27-2005 11:31:42

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Any one been contacted by anyone from these companies to start a business? Just got through dealing with what we thought was a contact by a consultant to start a small business here on the farm, turned out it was a person with Quixtar trying to get us to be a IBO and said with a few hours a week we can easily make $10's of 1000's a month. I researched and found out it is just an Amway company spin off into e-commerce. Reading people blogs they were approached the same way as me. I dont want to be part of a business that some one makes millions off me and I dont even own any saleable assets in the biz. Any one have any neg/pos dealing with this company.

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Illinois Boy

09-28-2005 13:51:47

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

If it sounds "too good to be true"... it probably is.

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Easy

09-28-2005 00:45:14

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

In Michigan, where Amway ( now some other name ) is based, a newspaper article reported that the average Amway dealer bought $1000 worth of products. Average total sales = $400. The only way to make money is to recruit people to sell for you, and have them recruit more people, and so on. The profits for the distributors, are from recruitment, not sales of products. The products are incidental. I hope I don't get harassed for saying this, they have a rep for that.

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ntmcj

09-27-2005 22:05:19

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

I am sure the products are ok, but if they are so excellent, why doesn't Wal-Mart, Costco, Target etc... stock them in their stores. I am sure if one of the major retailers approached Amway about a marketing deal, even if the products were marketed under another name, they would jump at the chance. A pyramid scheme by any other name is still a pyramid scheme.

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buickanddeere

09-28-2005 00:38:42

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to ntmcj, 09-27-2005 22:05:19

Pyramids are illegal. Amway and Quixtar according to the US Federal Government Trade Commission says they are not a pyramid. Misisng the whole concept there, sell in stores? The company is based on direct sales without stores and a store's overhead. The product is shipped from the factory to you directly. Who wants excellent products? Most consummers will purchase and wear out three cheap machines for 1-1/2 times the price of one well built long lasting machine. Same goes for any other item for sale. I'm hesitant to put some chemicals on my body from Wally World such as shampoo that cost less per gallon than bottled water.

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buickanddeere

09-27-2005 19:42:07

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

Excellent products, service and warranty at fair prices. Only problem like other businesses,people are involved. Most people out there have always been employees. They can make allot of serious errors in business and personal interactions when starting out running a business. And like any other competitive business. There is false info spread by the competition. And by disappointed people who didn't get rich quick and easy. Those tend to be lazy and dishonest dolts always blame everything and everybody else for their failure but never themselves. To their credit the company has been around since early 1960's. There are not in debt, never bounced a cheque and were found legal by a US trade inquiry. In another generation or two when people do most of there shopping online. Quixtar in particular will be a leader. They survived the 1999/2000 electronic business crash when few others did. I order some stuff online every now and again. Mrs. B&D prefers the beauty products and I find the cleaning products most effective and cost efficient. Have to go, I just heard the washing machine make it's end of cycle beeping.

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Lou

09-28-2005 11:21:34

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to buickanddeere, 09-27-2005 19:42:07

Lazy dishonest dolts! Ive been in the direct sales business for 35 yrs, have earned and lost many 100s of thoudands of dollars. Yes the products are good, but when it comes to business you know not of what you speak.

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paul

09-28-2005 08:18:12

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to buickanddeere, 09-27-2005 19:42:07

There method of business i to reward employees who recruit lots of other employees under them. They do not reward employees who sell a lot of product.

So, the quality of the product is beside the point.

If you want tobecome a sucessful employee, you need to sell other people on the idea of selling. You do not have to bother selling the product - waste of time.

This leads to poor sales people. They attract pushy losers basically. Tough way to make a business if you have to fool other people into pretending to sell product for you....

They are legal within the rules,but the concept of the business is that you only succeed if you get ever more sales people under you that gather more sales people - not sales. That still is the pyramid model, whether technically legal or not.

Buying off the internet directly off their web site? Cool. That busts their whole business model, I like that! :)

They couldn't possibly compete wholesaling to retailers. That is not their business model. The model is to break the backs of the many, to reward the few.

Aka, a pyramid.

--->Paul

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MarkB_MI

09-27-2005 19:01:40

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

The question you should have asked is "has anyone NOT been hit up by an Amway/Quixtar distributor?" I lost count of how many times I've been approached.

I know a lot of people who've wasted two or more years of their lives running around to Amway meeting. My stepson is one. So we're at a bar and he strikes up a conversation with a stranger. He runs on about his "business" for about ten seconds before the guy cuts him off and says, "Are you in Amway?"

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GGS

09-27-2005 15:54:49

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

I was in it for about 6 or 7 months and yes i spent about $1200 to make $80. Those were not good odds so i got out. I was in it around 2000 or 2001. I found out my upline got out a year later with the same story----alot of money out with little back. I will say they did have great products. Good luck but no thanks

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Dave H (MI)

09-27-2005 14:27:53

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

I have friends who have been involved for a couple of years or more. One of these guys is one of the hottest salesman I have ever known and a real go-getter. To the best of my knowledge, and I know a lot about his finances, he has made no significant money in this venture. Same story with pretty much every one of these types of deals that I have ever come across.

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Brokenwrench

09-27-2005 14:22:06

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to gaurded, 09-27-2005 11:31:42

I think that the business itself, is a pretty
successful one. The problem is more who your associated under and what the business ethics of each IBO is. Quixstar (Amway) is kinda like a wholesaler to a bunch of independant owners. Instead of the emphasis being put on retail sales, it`s put on each IBO purchasing all their goods from themselves, and recruiting others to do the same, thus increasing their own volume and profit. There are certain checks and balances to make sure that it stays legal. I was in Amway for awhile some years ago. The part I didn`t like was the training side of it. Seemed you were asked to spend alot of money on books, tapes, seminars, etc. The jist of it was, if you don`t buy into the promotional stuff your business will never grow. There`s the catch, little to none of the training material comes directly from Amway, but from your "upline" (the guys on the top of the food chain). I believe that is where alot of their profit comes in. I actually liked the products, but was continually being expected to spend a considerable amount (way, way more than my business was making) on tapes and such. It wouldn`t have taken long, and I could have been financially hurting big time. That`s when I bailed out. So to answer your question, I liked the products, and had no bad dealings with the company itself. I just didn`t agree with the tactics of the IBO`s above me.
I would say that there`s not much money to be made in it, if you go at it as a part time deal.
At best it`s a roll of the dice if you go all out and become heavily invested in it.
One of the big problems is that there is really no set guidelines for the IBO`s to follow. Sure there`s a code of ethics and stuff but in the real world that can become pretty gray.
That`s where some of these folks can come off with some pretty lofty promises, and weird approaches.

Sorry for the long reply Brokenwrench

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dave from MN

09-27-2005 18:05:59

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Re: quixtar? world wide group in reply to Brokenwrench, 09-27-2005 14:22:06

Thanks for the replies. I am not taking it on. The guy was way to secretive about the whole "process" and being in management for the world leader aplliance manufaturer company I was asking himm questions that I knew answers to and he talked in circles , not knowing I know.

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