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Rear Tires for Brush Hogging

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John - New York

09-23-2005 16:59:04




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My standard 16.9-30 loaded tires on my tractor do not stand up to the abuse caused by cut off trees that act as pungy sticks while I brush hog. I end up with sticks stuck into my 6 ply rated Titan Ag rear tires causing flat tires.

I'm looking into either having them foam filled or replacing them with Forestry Primex LS-2 tires with kevlar and steel belts. Either method is expensive - around $750 to $850 each tire.

Those rubber "tire guards" are $360 each and I doubt they're as good as the other options I mentioned.

Has anyone had satisfactory results combating this serious problem and what would you recommend? Price is a consideration, of course, but continual tire repairs is also costly!

Thanks for you're ideas!

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buickanddeere

09-24-2005 17:52:35




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-23-2005 16:59:04  
Get rid of the liquid ballast and lower the air pressure. The tire will not be so stuff and will bend around the stump. Fluid reduces the air space in the tire taking away it's ability to squeeze. Try using the Ultra Seal product for HD applications which is supposed to plug 1/2 holes.



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John - New York

09-25-2005 07:45:51




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to buickanddeere, 09-24-2005 17:52:35  
It isn't a problem with the stumps, it's the small saplings and brush that cause the problems.

I've had suggestions to get rid of the calcium solution, but lowering the air pressure probably won't work because of the weight of the Woods Brushbull mower.

Thanks,

John



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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

09-24-2005 20:15:13




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to buickanddeere, 09-24-2005 17:52:35  
Ever consider picking up used tires and running them as long as they last? There's no point in destroying a $400 tire on a stick when a $30.00 item will do almost the same thing. If you leave them unloaded they aren't that hard to change.



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John - New York

09-25-2005 07:40:20




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to Rod in Smiths Falls, ON, , 09-24-2005 20:15:13  
No, I've never given that suggestion a thought. I guess I'd rather have a tire that'll withstand the abuse - even for the few extra bucks, than deal with the repairs and down time.

And, I don't even know where I'd find good used tires for that kind of money. I'm not in a big agricultural area.

Thanks,

John



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RodinNS

09-24-2005 11:36:03




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-23-2005 16:59:04  
Hmmmmm. I shouldn't dump on your tires.....but, I never liked Titan very much. Simply put, I find that they have a very poor casing. Primex are OK, but they aren't going to wear like a Firestone, and probably won't stand up like a Firestone either. Forestry tires are a good idea, especially if you do a lot of this type of work, but they still aren't puncture proof, and they cost a lot of money. Personally, on the AG tire side, I would stay with Firestone, Michelin, or a GoodYear casing. Not saying much for GoodYear's tread design. With Forestry, I would stay with Firestone, PERIOD. I find that with tires, you get what you pay for. I've had my fill of the cheap ones, as they cost more per hour to run.

Rod

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John - New York

09-25-2005 07:34:48




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to RodinNS, 09-24-2005 11:36:03  
Thank you for the input!

I agree with you that Titan tires are not impressive, but there was one on the tractor when I bought it so I matched it when the other had a bad sidewall. The tire dealer said that Titan just brought out the Goodyear Ag Tire rights. The Goodyear casings on my Kubota have always held up well - even when I brush hog.

The Firestone rear forestry tires were about $1,000 each according to the dealer. The Primex, which he said were a good tire (and he deals with large tractor and hvy equipment tires) were about $750 each. Since there are no Primex available for a month because of the shipping problems in New Orleans, I guess I'll do another tire repair to get me through the season and give the whole matter a little more thought.

Thanks again!

John

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JK-NY

09-26-2005 13:45:02




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-25-2005 07:34:48  
Last I knew , Titan bougth out Armstrong Ag tire molds, not Goodyear. Good advice given about letting your blades get a little dull, also experiment with cutting height, either go as low as you can or a little high so the stumps from cut brush will bend over when you run on them rather than stick up and jab thru your tire.



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RodinNS

09-26-2005 18:50:00




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to JK-NY, 09-26-2005 13:45:02  
They have both. GoodYear made their deal last fall.

Rod



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RodinNS

09-25-2005 12:18:41




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-25-2005 07:34:48  
The Galaxy/Primex tire is OK. I guess if you're in a situation where you won't wear out the tire before it rots out, you'll probably save on Galaxy. However, I do know from my experience with AG tires that galaxy does not give the same service life as a Firestone Field and Road doing the same work. Pretty well all the guys in forestry work around here are hardcore users of the Firestone 23 degree forestry radial. There just isn't another tire to bother with.
BTW, you are correct about GoodYear's exit form the AG tire business. With any luck, titan can put their lug on the Good Year carcass, and they might come close to having half a tire to sell. FWIW,

Rod

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John - New York

09-25-2005 15:17:46




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to RodinNS, 09-25-2005 12:18:41  
Thanks again, Rod. Your experience and comments are sincerely appreciated!

John



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evielboweviel

09-24-2005 04:10:16




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-23-2005 16:59:04  
dull the blades on the bushhog. want them rounded over, this causes the tree stumps to shatter and rot away a whole lot quicker. when using sharp blades then you get a sharp cut this leaves a strong stump and tire punctures. also mow right down on the ground when cutting trees off to leave as short a stump as possible
Ron



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old

09-23-2005 20:31:50




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to John - New York, 09-23-2005 16:59:04  
Best thing I have ever used was a steel wheeled tractor. Never any flats and also they will go over any throrns you have and never care.



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Weirsdale George

09-23-2005 22:25:24




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 Re: Rear Tires for Brush Hogging in reply to old, 09-23-2005 20:31:50  
Another great thing about steel wheel tractors is that you can fix a "flat" with a welder!



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