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12 V Coversion Kit

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The Hawk

09-16-2005 13:39:26




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I have an 1952 Ford 8n that I am changing over to 12V. The instructions on installing the kit gose like this.Large red wire gose from the battery post on the alternator to the + side of the ammeter, then a red & white wire gose from the * side of the starter solenoid to the negative side of the ammeter, then a blue wire gose from the negative side of the ammeter to the terminal block and one of the wires from the key switch hooks up with thies wires, then there is an orange wire from the other side of the terminal block along with the other wire from the key switch.the orange wire gose to the resistor where a white wire gose from the resistor to the coil.The key switch on my 8n has ing. bat. and acc.I am not sure witch way thies wires go on the terminal block. As I have tryed switching the ing. and the bat. around.The instructions say that the bat.terminal on the alternator is now hot all the time. When I check the bat. terminal on the alterantor it is not hot. Can some one help me get this hooked up right. Thanks

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john in la

09-16-2005 16:28:26




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 Re: 12 V Coversion Kit in reply to The Hawk, 09-16-2005 13:39:26  
8N with a side mount distributor and coil converted to 12V with a Delco 10SI alternator.

Lets start at the starter relay.

One large post gets..... ..
the battery cable from the battery
a 10ga wire to the + post on the alternator
(you can wire a amp gauge in this wire if you want)
a wire to the terminal block.

The other large post gets..... a battery cable to the starter.

the small post gets..... a wire to the starter button on the trans.
If it will not crank you have the 2 large post on the relay hooked backwards. just reverse them.

Now for the coil..... ....
Hook a wire from the terminal block (same post as wire from relay) to the battery post on key.

Hook a wire from the run (ing) post on key to the other side of terminal block.
Hook a wire from this same post on terminal block to the coil resistor and them from resistor to coil.

Follow the link below. It is for a Ford 600 but is the same. Only difference is this diagram has a coil with a internal resistor and your coil has a external resistor.

If you notice it will not charge until you rev the motor way up you may want to wire it like picture 8 of 9 since you already have a car key switch.

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jf6363

03-10-2006 09:17:56




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 Re: 12 V Coversion Kit in reply to john in la, 09-16-2005 16:28:26  
Is this the same for a front mount distributor?
Thanks JF



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The Hawk

09-17-2005 19:39:53




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 Re: 12 V Coversion Kit in reply to john in la, 09-16-2005 16:28:26  
To john in la,
Would like to say thinks for your helping me with the 12v coversion kit on my 8n. J have it all hooked up and running just grate. Thanks again

The Hawk,



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John T

09-16-2005 15:56:58




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 Re: 12 V Coversion Kit in reply to The Hawk, 09-16-2005 13:39:26  
Hawk, I have no idea about those instructions you speak of, but can explain the theory to you which may or may not help?????

Most alternators use Negative ground but since Im not sure of what you have I will use generic terminology.

The SUPPLY side of the ammeter usually has but ONE WIRE and thats the main hot battery voltage feed which often wires to the starter solenoids input/supply (NOT side to starter) post where the big battery cable is attached. It could be wired direct to the hot ungrounded battery post, but its usually fed off the starter solenoids hot (NOT to starter) terminal.

The ammeters other LOAD side (often 2 wires or more) is what supplies voltage to switches n lights n ignition PLUS wires to the big main BAT terminal on the Alternator. BOTH sides of the ammeter ALWAYS read hot battery voltage, therefore, any wires off either terminal, including the one to BAT on the alternator, ALWAYS HAVE HOT BATTERY VOLTAGE.

If the ammeter were wired backards it would read charge for discharge and discharge for charge. If its correct with the tractor NOT running if you switch on lights or ignition it should swing to - discharge.

Clear as mud?????

John T, retired electrical engineer

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