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Perette

09-13-2005 14:22:14

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Did some more research today. There are 17 landscaping companys in the area listed in the yellow pages, now that right there would scare off most people, but I know for a fact that there are jobs out there even with that many companys out there because I worked for that landscaper this spring, and he was out straight for the 1st month, even though his prices were high because everybody calls at the same time and expects you to be there tomorrow. He did both commercial and residential work. He had 90 lawns in 2004, but for 2005 he only had around 30 left, all of them went to pretty much one new landscaper who did it for half price and others who were cheaper. Darn good way to bankrupt the competition I might add who's paying payments on a bunch of new stuff. The guys who have low overhead have the ability to charge way less and make money. Definatly something I will want to watch that because it's so easy to think big and buy new trucks, mowers, etc... and then your luck changes.
Thanks all!

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Sloroll

09-13-2005 14:56:06

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Re: Starting my own buisness in reply to Perette, 09-13-2005 14:22:14

There is nothing as good as or bad as owning your own business.

If you want to make money, The bossman is still a slave driving SOB and probably the worst one you have ever had.

Make sure your marraige is on solid foundation. If she requires a lot of maintanence and vacations, times will be hard.

Restaraunts close before you do. You open well before they do. Noon is your busiest time. Restaurants cease to exist for you.

You don't dare drive a car nicer than your poorest client.

You don't build a house nicer than your poorest client.

Live on one side of town, work on the other. Don't give out your home address or phone #.

You will need to kiss up to anybody at any time and not take insults personaly.

Health insurance is high. Taxes are higher.

Listen to advice from successful buisness men. There are a lot of talking barstools.

At the end of the day what you did is your own and there is no one to blame or congratulate but you. That is a good feeling and worth the troubles.

Good Luck. Many people will be pulling for you. I wouldn't go back to work under anyone elses shingle again. Bill

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Perette

09-13-2005 15:32:41

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Re: Starting my own buisness in reply to Sloroll, 09-13-2005 14:56:06

Nope, all of the landscapers in town drive brand new vehicles, and live in nice houses and have nice equipment. Whats most important is getting the jobs done and doing what you say your going to do. Believe me, I wouldn't want to live like a couple of his clients!, we had everything from gorgeous million dollar estates to downright dumps that we mowed lawns at. The wealthy are the best costumers and they don't keep any junk whatsoever and are extremely proud of their place and hire only the best, now which do you think they'd like, me pulling up in a junky old truck, or a nice shiny one. The guy I worked for had a brand new Ford diesel and a new enclosed race trailer with new mowers in it, it didn't seem to bother anybody and he had lots of clients, it was all the other stuff he bought that dragged him under, but the lawn mowing buisness was very successful. Am I going to run out and buy a new truck?, no, I'm going to use what I got until the buisness gets established before I'd consider any upgrades and even if I did have the money to upgrade right now from my '96 Chevy, I'd hold off because it's still a nice truck.
Yeah he worked very long hours too and worked 6 days a week, but I don't want to have to work that much, thats not living to me. I needed a new pair of work boots and never seemed to get out of work in time to go buy a pair before the stores were closed. I want to work no longer than 40hrs a week, like I said, I'm not married and I don't require everything new, so I won't have a mess of finance charges to deal with.

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Jay (ND)

09-13-2005 18:39:04

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Re: Starting my own buisness in reply to Perette, 09-13-2005 15:32:41

Don't under-estimate the power of old & pretty if looks AND value is what you want. Nothing nicer than a early 70s GMC pickup that is well-kept and with a shiney finish on it. I sold a 74 IHC 1700 Loadstar to a guy that wasy doing just that with it. Shining it up for job sites. cheaper than new, just as good, and people knew when you drove in that you took care of your stuff.

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Perette

09-13-2005 19:28:35

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Re: Starting my own buisness in reply to Jay (ND), 09-13-2005 18:39:04

Yes, it doesn't have to be new, it just can't be junky, a fixed up truck would look nice. The guy I worked for had 3 dumptrucks, one of them was an old International loadstar 1700 he had bought off the state highway dept., only his wan't all that pretty and he hardly used it, only reason he bought it was to haul his skidsteer and backhoe around. His had the 9.0L and the boss was the only one who drove it, I do know that truck was very expensive to repair and had some things wrong with it. Local truck center got $75 an hr to work on it and the parts were all very pricy, I remember the brakes were shot, and the 2 speed rear motor that switches ratios was broken, cost him $3,000 in repairs, didn't use it since and now it's currently up for sale for $8,000. Way too much truck for me though, I have no use for anything that big.
It's all about Image, people want to hire you to beautify their place, you show up in a junky truck with trash for equipment, thats not a very good image and would actually be very embarrasing to the estates people so they wouldn't hire you in the first place and make them wonder if you know what your doing because obviously you don't take pride in your appearance.

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Jay (ND)

09-13-2005 20:32:57

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Re: Starting my own buisness in reply to Perette, 09-13-2005 19:28:35

Yep - sounds right - not at all like the old "Columbo" movies would make it appear.

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