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Scrapping old iron

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IHC Guy

09-08-2005 23:50:12




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I am still troubled by the thought of people who feel the need to scrap out old farm machinery. This stuff aint made anymore! I am 100% positive that someone will be more than happy to take whatever it is than have it go to the scrap yard. Please remember this. Myself along with everyone I know who collects tractors feels the same way. I'm always up for getting new toys. I'm sure they guy down your street is too.

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Llyod Llama

09-10-2005 14:54:57




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
Realistically, much of the stuff is beyond salvage, even for parts. That's probably why it was dragged out in the fencerow to begin with. Every owner has to decide whether it is cost effective to store it, resurrect it or scrap it. If you're on a tight budget, as most all of us are, the answer is obviious.



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IHC Guy

09-10-2005 22:10:40




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Llyod Llama, 09-10-2005 14:54:57  
This is true. Money is always an object. As far as the condition goes, you'd be amazed at what a little time, effort, and love can do to a piece of "junk".



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paul

09-09-2005 19:39:38




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
I understand what you are saying, but this 'junk' shows up at consignment sales around 'here' all the time, and it ends up selling for a bit less than the price of scrap iron at the sale.

So, if you load it up & haul it straight to the scrap yard, you get a bit more.

If you want it, you gotta pay for it. Everybody who feels like you, gotta do more than talk, show up with some green. :)

But, I do understand what you are saying. A lot of not too bad stuff goes off to the scrap yard when scrap prices go up, and no it isn't made any more.

--->Paul

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doogdoog

09-09-2005 16:38:16




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
Aloha, I would love to get my hands on some old iron but I don't have the space. I have the time and equipment to restore one but don't have the space. They should have an old iron graveyard where all the unwanted iron could go and when someone needed a part, they could go there.

Mahalo,
doogdoog



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Sid

09-09-2005 11:43:34




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
I can understand where you are coming from. Unfortunatley It has to pay its way around here. Where are all these willing people and there money. Post a list of what you want and I'll look around and see what I got.



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Dan

09-09-2005 11:54:36




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Sid, 09-09-2005 11:43:34  
1939 9N with a sherman transmission in rough but original shape, smooth hubs, double ribbed fenders, aluminum hood and grill - running optional.

Dan



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Scott in NNY

09-09-2005 10:09:34




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
Around here I see a lot of land around the edges of old fields ruined by old equipment left there by well enough meaning folks. Someday the logger, or maybe a future farmer, is gonna be pissed when he runs his machine on this stuff as it becomes hidden in the underbrush. A lot of old machines just waiting for the "rounto it" that will never come. Just what I see around here(Oswego county), not like that everywhere. P.S.- Most of these guys won't sell the stuff either, waiting for "someday".

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IHC Guy

09-09-2005 10:12:27




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-09-2005 10:09:34  
To some of us, letting the old iron waste away out in a field is about as bad as child abuse. It's too bad that people cant at least find a good home for the stuff or at least try to get it out of the elements.



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Mike 46

09-09-2005 05:21:43




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to IHC Guy, 09-08-2005 23:50:12  
Realistically, if you compare the amount of old farm machinery out there (old tractor hulks plus all other stuff) to the amount that could realistically be restored or refurbished to working condition, then account for the number of guys who would take on such projects, the amount of stuff heading to the scrap heap doesn't suprise me. It would amaze you and I how many guys with all that junk sitting around would keel over if they found out what some guys spend on getting the old stuff back to working condition. All of us usually do what is easiest, and with the price these days of scrap steel and cast iron I can't really blame most of them for doing it the easiest way possible. Of couse, those of us reading this forum don't see it that way but you must look at it from the point of view of a guy that has tons of stuff sitting there which is potential money in his jeans but has no interest in going to the trouble of advertising it, dealing with treasure hunters and tractor jockeys, and then still being left with piles of stuff that nobody wants. Good topic for discussion that's for sure.

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Dan

09-09-2005 06:49:13




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Mike 46, 09-09-2005 05:21:43  
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Here is a pic of the tractor I rescued and refirbished. By most accounts - this tractor was WAAAAY past fixing up and destined for the scrap yard. The engine was seized, the shifter cover was left off so what was left of the tranny was worthless, rust everywhere, and was missing parts. I see your point, but I rebuilt the engine, hydraulics, put in entire new tranny guts, cleaned up and painted, and a boatload of new parts including new tires for right at $5k. While it is a lot of money, to get a NAA that was in the shape I ended up with, $5k is reasonable - so I did not waste much there. Of course, it did take me 9 months, and some just do not have that drive or desire, but there are plenty you could sell it to that does.

If you have some spare time, click on the link below (dial up warning - there are a lot of pics to load) and see a real good pictorial of the before, durring, and finished process. It was more than just a hobby and a learning experience - it was also a labor of love to save old iron.

Dan

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IHC Guy

09-09-2005 09:44:04




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Dan, 09-09-2005 06:49:13  
That is definately a fine piece of machinery. I just finished my first F-20 that was in about the same condition so I too can relate to the time and money spent on the hobby.



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Paul in Mich

09-09-2005 06:02:52




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 Re: Scrapping old iron in reply to Mike 46, 09-09-2005 05:21:43  
Mike, It makes the stuff that remains out there worth all the more money, including the stuff we have. Your point is well taken.



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