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Scott in NNY

09-02-2005 04:46:54




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With recent, and I suspect for the foreseeable future, fuel prices, I was wondering what tractors were the least thirsty. Can't exactly stop runnin em. I love our Ford 7000 cause it can run a lot longer than our 4020's or 2094 but the wife likes to sit in a cab. Let's hear some opinions of fuel sipping tractors.***Please, no oversize garden tractors***50hp and up. Whatcha Think???

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Chuck S.

09-03-2005 17:58:25




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Hpow about Deutz 68 or 72 06 series tractor. At 68 to70 hp,they use app. 1 to 1.5 gph.



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wolfman

09-03-2005 17:12:48




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
If you're talking antique tractors (before 1960); For a non-thirsty gas tractor, the 460 Farmall is a winner; for a diesel, the 720-730 Deere's weren't too thirsty.



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Leon in Mn.

09-02-2005 12:17:45




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
A 400 Case diesel, hands down. You can run those long block engines till the cows come home and still have some fuel left.
Leon in Mn.



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wh

09-02-2005 08:58:29




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
have a caseih cx90 - 75 pto hp. has perkins engine. in a hard run will burn 3 gal hr. in normal going about 2 1/4. it has a GREAT cab!! the mccormick series is the same set up.



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Hurst

09-02-2005 08:54:50




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
One of the best tractors for fuel efficiency you will find will have to be an allis chalmers with a 301 diesel turbo engine. Allis was far ahead of dear and ford when it came to getting turbo engines right. The D19 for example can run with just a little more fuel than a diesel d17, but the turbo d262 engine puts out about 20% more power. I have an allis 7000, and that thing has a cab with A/C, radio, nothing too special, is quiet and keeps you fairly comfortable. Anyway, I get about 2 1/2 gallons an hour normally, maybe 3 if working it really hard on the batwing. While they are the best on fuel economy, anything prior to the 8000 series allis tractors like to smoke (good on fuel, but not too good on the environment not that a few tractors makes a difference with what you will be using it for, just more soot). I bought my 7000 with cab for 7500, so they are more than reasonable. It has been a great tractor, have her fixed up all nice for less than 500 into her (more around 250 or 300 into it). The 8010 was also good, along with the 7010 (updated 7000) and a 7020 (a 7010 with an intercooler for the turbo). I don't think there is much that can touch the economy AND reliability of those allis 301s. If you go anymore questions let my know.

Hurst

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Hurst

09-02-2005 09:31:52




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 Forgot to add in reply to Hurst, 09-02-2005 08:54:50  
Also, my 7000 turns out about 115 hp on the dyno, that is about 9 hp over stock. The 7010 was 106 stock, the 7020 was about 120 hp stock. I have yet to find a tractor of this power to get as much economy as these allises.

Hurst



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Mike(inWisc.)

09-02-2005 07:48:42




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Most efficient tractor I have ever seen was a John Deere 730 Diesel. A good three plow tractor with about 58 hp--won't burn more then 2/12 gallons an hour.

Don't know of anything built since then that is that good.



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RodinNS

09-02-2005 07:35:42




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Put a cab on the 7000. You probably won't find anything better on fuel than a Ford or Perkins, that you would actually want to work with. Kubota's may be easy on fuel, but some of the other Jap engines that I've seen and run are not particulairly easy on fuel. The 52 hp ISM in my skid steer burn more than the same size Ford, doing a lot harder work. Jap engines turn way too fast to ever be fuel efficient. That, combined with pre chambers doesn't help. For what it's worth....

Rod

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Mopower

09-02-2005 06:56:27




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Old gas M-M tractors are known for using fuel, but how about a M670 on diesel? I have a neighbor that says it sips away but has a lot of power. Also you could try LP power since it is cheaper per gallon right now! The John Deere two cylinder diesels set fuel economy records. Maybe a 70/720/730 Diesel? Fun to drive.



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Coloken

09-02-2005 06:33:20




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
The Neb HP tests all so tested for fuel/HP. Back when, one of the best was the Perkins, like in the MF 1100. Radial tires are way better.



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Bill(Wis)

09-02-2005 06:23:50




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
As usual, the Japanese are ahead of everybody.



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Roger P

09-02-2005 05:22:08




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Anything made in England will be thrifty on fuel,as you say your Ford 7000 uses very little fuel,the engine in that tractor was made in the Ford plant in UK. Fuel has always been expensive in europe so got to make it do more,same way with cars and trucks,80 per cent of europe"s vehicles are diesel powered, running on modern clean diesel fuel. Anyone who has been there will tell you they give high performance on very little fuel,same way with tractors, European Deere"s, Mccormick,Valtra,New Holland,Agco,Fendt etc.

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Roy in UK

09-02-2005 09:28:15




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Roger P, 09-02-2005 05:22:08  
I think the average British farmer would think you were having a laugh if you suggested that the Ford tractor was noted for its fuel economy ( have you seen the amount of black smoke those things turn out when pulling? ) I got to agree though about European built tractors . Those MWM engines ( now part of the Deutz group) that were fitted to Fendt and Renaults were wonderful pulling engines but also very economical on fuel.

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Ryan - WI

09-02-2005 08:42:38




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Roger P, 09-02-2005 05:22:08  
I agee with the England comment. Our Case 995 (which is really a David Brown) can run it seems forever on one tank of diesel.



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buickanddeere

09-02-2005 05:18:01




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 Re: Fuel sipping tractors??? in reply to Scott in NNY, 09-02-2005 04:46:54  
Deere 5105 M4WD with radial tires all around. That will do about the most work per lb of fuel. Radial tires, minimal ballast and M4WD makes the difference.



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