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12 volts--and restoring.

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Rimshot

08-09-2005 17:53:12




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I can't believe all the for sale tractors that have been converted to 12 volt. Why? Maybe if you are using it in cold weather and don't care about originality it's OK. But when you restore one and say it's a show tractor---then that ticks me off. Especially you Farmall people--seems like every H or M has been converted. I realize some of you are saying---So what!!! But that's just me---I like original. None of mine have been converted and never will be---they start just fine on 6 volts. And one more comment about restoring. Geez all Friday----if you go to all the work of painting and restoring a tractor then don't leave a set of shi--- tires on it!!

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Lewis

08-14-2005 07:54:26




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
Well now Rimshot,
After reading all the posts below, it is like Paul Harvey says; NOW, YOU KNOW THE REST OF THE STORY. You shouldn't have to ever ask this question again.
But just because I would like to know; do you use everything "old" on your "restoration"? Old type paints, old type wire, old rubber compounds in you "new" tires, etc. I don't think so!
As you can see, you can get pretty ridiculous rather quickly.

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Leroy

08-11-2005 04:49:04




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
It is your right to change things, just don't use the word restore and say it is a show tractor and I see so many that have been converted also and that tells me to stay away from that tractor as it would cost a fortune to get it to the working condition I would want it in.



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RayP(MI)

08-10-2005 16:39:33




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
I converted mine to 12v for starting and lighting reasons. A 6v system just wouldn't get the job done with the extra electrical loads I ask it to handle - flashing lites, extra lites, just bright enough lights ot be able to see. Not to mention lighting on impliments that might be attached. I want to see and be seen. Sorry, my old tractors are working girls.



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Island A

08-10-2005 08:28:18




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
Well my JD A is 12 volts, but it was manufactured that way in 1949. But I guess my chrome stack and mismatched rear tires must get your blood boiling...

Lighten up!

Dave



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Mike M

08-10-2005 07:15:09




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
My POS tires are original ? So what's the deal ?



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John (MO)

08-10-2005 06:52:04




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
It ain't truely factory original if it's bored, planed, stroked, painted with clear coat, 6 volt converted to 12 volt, or has upgraded wiring. But, the only one who really has any right to care about it is the guy that owns it. Anyway, what's the deal with people using those exhaust flappers on old tractors, or even worse, diet Coke cans. In the 1940's the only think that came in cans was peaches

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John T

08-10-2005 06:21:35




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
Rimshot, theres no right or wrong answer to this one, its a matter of personal choices. One has the right to do whatever he or she pleases with their own tractor and money but a couple facts remain. One is they will indeed crank over faster with a good 12 volt system/conversion but the other is if originality or the 'Correct Police" matter, then they should remain as original. I will add that on 6 volt systems, I highly recommend the use of 00 Gauge battery and ground and starter cables, cuz if youre starting with only 6 volts, you cant afford to drop any voltage across wimpy battery cables or poor connections or grounds.

You pay your money and make your choices as they say

John T retired electrical engineer

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big fred

08-09-2005 21:09:11




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
It's really not much different than restoring it to exact factory condition, then painting with with a modern paint with hardener, clear coat, etc. In fact, it's probably easier to convert it back to 6 volts if desired than it would be to strip that non-original paint and repaint it with enamel.

In either case, though, I don't see how it's a problem for you. It's kinda like sayin' "Gee, I can't believe alla you fellers that married blondes when you know brunettes are sexier".

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fixerupper

08-10-2005 07:04:30




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to big fred, 08-09-2005 21:09:11  
You didn't say anything about redheads. I'm gonna tell my wife about this. I think she's kinda cute cause she's a redhead. (snicker)
Have a good Wednesday. Jim



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big fred

08-10-2005 09:28:01




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to fixerupper, 08-10-2005 07:04:30  
My wife is a redhead, I figger she can speak for herself, and often does. ;o)



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Gorilla

08-09-2005 20:02:59




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
How bout you mind your own buisness. I have a super M that I converted to 12 volts because 6 dont get it. I got tired of not being able to rely on it to start and replacing crappy 6 volt batteries. I dont see that you have a dog in the hunt, Jack!



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fixerupper

08-09-2005 19:35:22




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
I am probably the worst 'correct police' with my own tractors there is. Everything has to be exactly the way it came from the factory - except for my Oliver 88. Six volts just isn't enough for that old girl no matter how healthy the starting system is, so now it is starting on twelve, but it does not have an alternator. I have also converted a couple of M's to twelve and that too was pure necessity.( yes, they have alternators but it was by the owner's request) Most other six volt tractors will start just fine if everything is up to snuff. Jim

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john d

08-09-2005 19:08:09




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
Well....If you want to restore them to exact original condition, I can see why you want 6 volts. But....if you are truly RESTORING the tractor to original specs throughout, there will likely be several things on most of them that have been modified to make it operate more nearly the way the previous owner wanted it to, or will need repair/replacement due to wear/tear/abuse.

The "especially you Farmall people" remark includes me, I guess. I have an M that starts on 12 volts quite well. Even with good cables, connections, and starter, a 6 volt battery labors to turn it with the oversize-bore high-compression pistons. But I guess those aren't original either.....

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Nebraska Cowman

08-09-2005 18:47:20




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
You pay for your tractor you have every right to have it just the way you want. And I'll have mine the way I want, thank you. There's pleny room for all of us in this hobby and before we get to fighting about it. Tractor collecting in not about the dammed old tractors anyway, it is about the wonderful people we meet and the fantastic friends we make.



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Gene Davis (Ga.)

08-09-2005 17:57:59




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Rimshot, 08-09-2005 17:53:12  
What gives with this guy?? Is he the correct police?? People buy their own tractors and pay for them, and guess they finish them as they like.



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TDK

08-09-2005 19:57:50




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to Gene Davis (Ga.), 08-09-2005 17:57:59  
Amen, Cowman. When he buys mine he do as he pleases with it. Who asked his opinion anyway ?



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edchainsaw

08-09-2005 20:44:24




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 Re: 12 volts--and restoring. in reply to TDK, 08-09-2005 19:57:50  
I am one that likes original stuff.. HOWEVER!
I use my tractors and like everyone says.. aint no way a 6volts going to roll over this 50 cockshutt after its been bored planed-its tighter than a hide.



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