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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 07:53:29




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Anybody else ever notice that when someone tells you a story, it aways involves an "old" farmer or advice from an "old" mechanic... ????
"I went to talk to this old farmer about deer hunting..." You get the drift...
You never hear - "That YOUNG farmer let me rabbit hunt on his place last year".
What - I say what is the story here???

Looking forward to what Mr. old has to say on this. : )

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buickanddeere

08-08-2005 06:56:04




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
Some old farmers never got beyond using nails for kotter keys, bailer twine and a hammer. They only made breakdown repairs for service. They thought they were saving money. When the equipment was ruined long before it's time. They complained about the manufacture and went looking to purchase another. Lesson there is how not to..... ...



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jc

08-07-2005 20:00:46




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
Common stat that the average age of full time agriculture producers in 56 years. Our local young farmer orgaization has few members under 45.



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H. Arnold Merklethrope

08-06-2005 13:14:10




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
Well IB, in my business (I'm a third generation adult film maker) we look to the young not the old.



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ONE HUNG LOW

08-06-2005 19:32:50




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to H. Arnold Merklethrope, 08-06-2005 13:14:10  
My great grandmother was in adult films also ,while cleaning out her attic I found one of her old steam powered vibrators ,what is worth on Ebay ?



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H. Arnold Merklethrope

08-07-2005 09:01:43




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to ONE HUNG LOW, 08-06-2005 19:32:50  
It depends on the brand, condition and attachments. On steam powered units it depends too on if it's a single or double action model. The Victorian Lady Swoon is the most desireable. Hope this helps.



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Richard H.

08-06-2005 11:39:28




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
I really don"t care what you me as long as it"s not " to late for supper" ! Richard



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old

08-06-2005 09:11:02




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
So what you want me to say LOL



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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 09:18:05




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to old, 08-06-2005 09:11:02  
old,
These young whup'n snappers are all tak'n this the wrong way! Everybody's too serious nowadays!
I'm move'n in with you - where's my bunk?



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old

08-06-2005 09:38:06




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 09:18:05  
Well I guess you could bed down in the barn if you don't mind cats. Or maybe in one of the 3 camper trailors I have but one is a checken house so you probably wouldn't like that one, LOL. Deer hunting starts here on the 15th of sept. for bow that is your welcome to come down and throw a few arrows at the deer.



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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 10:15:21




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to old, 08-06-2005 09:38:06  
Thanks Mr. old - I'll sleep with the cats....



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old

08-06-2005 11:01:23




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 10:15:21  
I think the better choice would be the 5th wheel camper its still set up for humans, it even has AC. LOL The barn also has horses and you might have trouble sleeping with them in there with you, they are good horses, Arabians by the way.



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TGIN

08-06-2005 09:07:26




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
I think alot of time it is a figure of speech . I was Ear tagging yearling heifers the other day and would commint about that was old 37 or what ever no. but in reality it`s a young animal . Old just slides out good in discription .



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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 09:01:36




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
OK - Everyone is taking this out of context - it was meant to spur humorous and inventive conversation. For the record - I am 55 years OLD and counting. (If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself)
You younger farmers, mechanics, etc., please keep paying your social security taxes - I'll need to collect in the near future 'cause I'm throw'n in the towel at 62. I will continue to put up hay, but only to supplement my "can pick'n-up bizness!!

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frankiee

08-06-2005 08:31:48




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
I think that “old” is a relative term, and that when referring to a farmer, one assumes that the person was raised on the farm. With that in mind, a 30 year old person could have 30 years of knowledge about the farm. That fact commands respect of what that person is saying. I think that when people say that an “old farmer’ told me……. The fact that it was an old farmer that says something qualifies the statement being true due to the recognized years of experience. I think the term is wide spread because , again, a 30 year old farmer could have 30 years of experience. We all assume that farming is a family business and the kids are out there working since young.
I think the same goes to an “old mechanic” but not to such a large extent. I think that auto mechanics are thought to take up the trade from their father (or mother) and be changing a transmission under a shade tree at the age of 12. ( I was)
That is just my take on things anyhow. I do admit that I am not a farmer or a mechanic (I’m a marine engineer) but have worked on farms when I was young.
I have a great respect for farmers being that they have to know so much about so many subjects it is amazing.

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Dave H (MI)

08-06-2005 08:25:01




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
I think we all, and rightfully so, give more respect to our elders. Most people on here are collecting "old" equipment so it is natural to seek advice from "old" people. I'll be sure to look YOU up when my Nintendo breaks down, though....so no worries! Although you may not be of much help since that junk can't be fixed. Hey, isn't that a reference to an "old" cartoon in your post? What exactly does "old" mean anyway? Sorry to be busting your chops, but "old" habits die hard!

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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 08:29:09




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Dave H (MI), 08-06-2005 08:25:01  
I wish the "respect for elders" held true for all generations. Uhhhh - What's a Nintendo??? : )
Naw - there's a member that posts on the forum who goes by "old". Very knowledgeable and a good guy...



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DavisIn SC

08-06-2005 08:08:27




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 07:53:29  
I think we all take the advice of "Old" folks more seriously. I always did. After all, they have a lifetime of experience..... ...



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Illinois Boy

08-06-2005 08:11:51




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to DavisIn SC, 08-06-2005 08:08:27  
Agreed on the advice...



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mark

08-06-2005 08:54:47




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to Illinois Boy, 08-06-2005 08:11:51  
There is no shame in being 'old' and i don't think any belittling to the aged in referring to them as 'old'. Folks up in years, are old, no getting around that. And, having lived all those years GENERALLY adds to their wisdom and experince in many venues. So, when we say 'an old man', 'an old farmer', 'an old mechanic' told me such and such, it is meant to lend creedence to our words as being passed on knowledge gleaned from years of experience.

My dad had a first cousin who was indeed, an old mechanic. He started working on Model T Fords in the barn and stayed at it until he was past 80. Long dead now, he had forgot more than 90% of the mechanics I have met since, will ever know. These fellows repairing machinery today are parts changers. The man I refer to, would take the part off, repair it, and then put it back on. Many a starter motor and generator went through his shop, had the armatures turned, bushings and brushes replaced and back on it went. Everything was done that way, if it was repairable. No, it is much cheaper today to replace the part than to rebuild it onsite, but the point is, these old guys knew how to do it and did so. I promise, when that 'old man' spoke up, it bid you well to sit up and take notice because you were getting the straight dope.

I'll tell you another bit of wisdom an old farmer once told me. We were talking about dry weather and corn. He said, "When it's dry, keep plowing (cultivating). It'll draw mositure up to the roots and your corn will keep growing." I am sure plenty of modern experts will poo-poo this advice, but to you I say, try it. It works! I am always amazed at the younger generations who scoff at what thse old folks learned the hard way, by spending many a day behind a mule, trying to beat out a living from the soil.

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rustyj14

08-08-2005 19:19:41




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to mark, 08-06-2005 08:54:47  
Well, i guess you all will call me "old", since i'll be 81 next month! 6 or 7 years ago, maybe 8 or 9, i retired from auto body work. couldn't set still, so i started repairing lawn mowers i found, set out for the garbage man! Then folks started bringing their mowers for me to fix or tune up! I must have sold almost a hundred mowers since then! I started out repairing Model T's and A's. They could be bought for $35, back around the late '40's. Had a bunch of A's and T's, then went to work in a Ford dealership, then into auto body work, which i continued at until retirement! When i got out of the Army, with a wooden foot, my Grand-father wanted me to work in a bank, where he had lined up a job for me, but i didn't think i'd like it, is why i got into mechanics. We repaired lots of starters, generators, engines, everything on the cars that needed fixed! I bought an Indian motorcycle, a 1936 Chief, rode it for 4 years, sold it for $200! Later on, my wife said if i ever bought another cycle, she'd leave me! Well, i bought a Honda CM450A, and she's still here! Any way, fellers, if ya want to live long, eat a half a grapefruit and a bowl of raisin bran every day except Saturday, when ya eat bacon and eggs, drink a beer or 2 every day, don't fight with the wife, be honest in yer dealings with others, keep yer mind fresh, don't smoke, and ya might live as long as me! I pick the 5-string twice a week at several bluegrass jamms, and enjoy life! As one guy said, when contemplating doing away with his old lady--a life sentence, at 80, isn't near as long as when you're 30! Cheers: Rusty Jones

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Danny Tabor

08-06-2005 14:21:42




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 Re: OT / Old Farmers, Mechanics, etc. in reply to mark, 08-06-2005 08:54:47  
When I was a teenager I knew it all about EVERYTHING. Now being a little older I realize I don't know NUTHIN'. Am I gettin' dumber maybe.

Referring to a smart mouth comment made by his son, A friend of mine said this...."One of these days that boys smarts will move from his @ss north. I hope" I love that saying.

Danny Tabor



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