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Brokenwrench

08-04-2005 05:40:42




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Here"s the deal. When I post a reply, and use an apostrophe ie we"ll, I"m, etc. It"s right on the post message page. When I click "post message", and go to the next page, it turns all my apostrophes into quotation marks. Any ideas, and, no I"m not holding down the shift key. Thanks Brokenwrench




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Coldiron

08-04-2005 08:28:37




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 05:40:42  
When I use the apostrophe beneath the quotation marks (") it ends up like O'Neil with an " instead of the intended apostrophe. When I use the ` (lower case) beneath the ~ (tilden?) it usually comes out right. O'Neil with the one under the " marks. O`Neil



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Brokenwrench

08-04-2005 09:32:26




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Coldiron, 08-04-2005 08:28:37  
Thanks guys for all the help. I`ll have to remember to use the other apostrophe under the ~(whatever that thing is). Then it seems to work fine. Thanks again for all the replies
Brokenwrench`s`s`s`s`s`s`s`s`s`s`s`s Just trying it out :)



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Coldiron

08-04-2005 08:20:47




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 05:40:42  
With a name like O`Neil you get used to computers not being able to see your name. The Irish weren`t meant to be in cyberspace I guess. LOL O`Neil



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Mike M

08-04-2005 07:59:17




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 05:40:42  
Let's try it ? What's the deal ? It's working ?



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mrunion

08-04-2005 07:14:21




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 05:40:42  
To attempt to answer the "why it does this" question:

Some databases (most databases?) use the apostrophe/single tick (') as a string separator. That means that the TEXT of your reply goes into these string separators when it is put into the database. For example:

'Hello, guys.'

If one types apostrophes and they aren't "escaped" by doubling them, the string becomes corrupted and the database insert will fail. Example:

'That's mine.'

In the above example, the database server looks at the string, says the "THAT" part is the string and "S MINE." has just been tacked on the end and is invalid.

Most schemes handle this by pre-processing your strings and doubling the apostrophes: Example:

'That''s mine.'

Two apostrophes together indicate to the database that a SINGLE apostrophe should be inserted LITTERALLY into the string.

Still, other ways around the problem are to replace all single apostrophes with a double-quote -- as you have seen.

I am NOT saying this is what is actually happening, just tletting you guys know what *may* be happening.

Thanx,
Matt

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Allan in NE

08-04-2005 05:51:08




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 05:40:42  
Hi Guy,

It's not you. It is on the other end; this has been an ongoing problem that pops up from time to time.

Allan



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Brokenwrench

08-04-2005 06:24:46




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Allan in NE, 08-04-2005 05:51:08  
Another semi-dumb question..
Why does yours and most everybody elses come out
OK?? Is there a trick? Thanks again Brokenwrench



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Bob M

08-04-2005 07:01:56




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Brokenwrench, 08-04-2005 06:24:46  
BW - No "trick" (or 'trick'?) I'm aware of! Rather the problem seems to a random thing - sometimes it happens sometimes it does not.



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Paul in Mich

08-04-2005 08:54:58




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 Re: Computer advise please in reply to Bob M, 08-04-2005 07:01:56  
Bob, It randomly happens to me ALL the time.



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