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Days Ed

07-31-2005 08:36:53




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Does anyone know of a source for the type of rivets that were rounded on one end and got hammered on the other to secure? The kind you use for sickle sections only I need various sizes.
TSC only has sickle rivets and my local "old style" hardware doesn't have any. I need about a 3/8" head and not overly long. Also, is there a tool for saving the head on these that I don't know about. I don't want to deform the head too much when I pound the other side. My sickle bar tool works great where it can reach but a lot of places I need to rivet are not reachable. Appreciate any tips and sources.

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JWhite

07-31-2005 20:08:59




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
You might also check with your local airport. Those types of rivets are also used in repairs to the skins of airplanes.

Just an Idea



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NC Wayne

07-31-2005 19:31:48




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
Here is a link to one place that carries rivets and rivet tools. ---http://www.hansonrivet.com/--
You can also look online at Thomas Register and do a search for rivets and you'll get a wide variety of different companies that carry what you need.



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xragman

07-31-2005 14:31:26




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
I believe these rivets are called brazier head. need a tool to fit the size you are useing. In pan seat & other applications they were installed red hot &bucked quickly.



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Days Ed

07-31-2005 16:47:34




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to xragman, 07-31-2005 14:31:26  
That is useful info. I just need to find or fab something to use for the tool. Thanks all for the responses! If you have a source for the tool I would be liking to hear.



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Marty Downey

07-31-2005 11:40:23




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
If you've got a sheet metal shop close they might be able to help you. I think pop-in-law called it bucking rivets. I think he just called the tool a bucking tool. It is about 1 1/2" square by about 4" long piece of steel that you hold against the head while you buck the rivet.



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Days Ed

07-31-2005 16:45:58




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Marty Downey, 07-31-2005 11:40:23  
I been looking around for a bucking tool but ebay has them listed as aircraft tools. I'll look around and see what I can find. If anyone has a picture of one of these I'd like to see what it looks like.



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TimV

07-31-2005 11:05:36




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
Days Ed: One of the largest rivet companies is Stimpson. Another one is Hanson. Stimpson"s website is below--the company I work for purchased directly from them when we made 3-ring binders. You may have to go through a distributor to buy in less than box quantity. Their website is below. The CE rivet is just one type they make--look around the site for other types and also installation equipment.

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Mike Van

07-31-2005 09:37:31




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
Our local IH dealer used to have them on the shelf in different lengths -



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37 chief

07-31-2005 09:05:32




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 08:36:53  
Look up Mc Master Carr They have a lot of stuff.



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bps

07-31-2005 10:30:11




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to 37 chief, 07-31-2005 09:05:32  
Look at McMaster Carr page 3106. Believe there's steel ones, also 3 pages of different ones



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Days Ed

07-31-2005 09:43:34




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to 37 chief, 07-31-2005 09:05:32  
Good site, but I only find these rivets in brass, copper, and aluminum there. I guess I need to know more about these rivets in general. What were they made of? How installed usually (if you can't use your sickle tool)? I am replacing a couple of rivets in a tractor pan seat and could use the benefit of some experience.



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Glen in TX

07-31-2005 20:55:08




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 09:43:34  
Many places carry rivet setting shanks of different sizes to fit air hammers. You can use those and drill or mill a dimple in a heavy piece of iron for a anvil to be used underneath or clamp a smaller piece with the dimple in it to a anvil or vise.



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Ol Chief

07-31-2005 19:44:53




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 Re: Old fashioned rivets in reply to Days Ed, 07-31-2005 09:43:34  
I cannot tell you much about small rivets because am mainly aquainted with very large ones used in older ship construction.The purpose of using rivets heated red hot is two fold.First it allows the ease of flatening the small end of the rivet.Second it produces a very tight match up of parts being joined due to shrinkage of the rivet as it cools.This was a necessity in ship construction or other structural steel work.

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