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kippster

07-20-2005 20:12:38




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Hey Yall! I have aproxamately 30 cherry stumps to remove in a small field that I just aquired. They are only 4 - 10 inches in diameter and stand nearly 3 feet tall. I don't have the money to hire a grinder, a dozer, or an excavator, but I do have a Farmall H, a strong back, and plenty of time on my hands. Is there a way to get these DANG stumps out easily AND safely????




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Bill(Wis)

07-22-2005 05:48:49




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Do a search for "stump pullers" and you will see a picture and description of what the early settlers used to pull stumps. My farm was heavily forested with huge white pine trees and after it was logged off the land was sold to farmers who cleared the land using, for the most part, stump pullers and also dynamite. If you can use dynamite, get the 40% grade (slower explosion, better cratering effect). Ammonium nitrate fertilizer is also good to provide a slow explosion with good cratering. I assume there are some severe restrictions on this type of activity now and you would have to get someone with an appropriate license. 40 years ago we bought our fuse, caps and explosives from the county highway dept. I've also had excellent results by soaking the stumps with waste oil and then burning them. The colder the weather the better they burn.

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Rod F.

07-21-2005 20:57:03




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Hmmm..... I won't be much help, but here's my 2 cents anyway. You've got 30 stumps? Probably a couple hours work for the local contractor with a backhoe, when he's in the area..... it's the easiest, safest, and i'd be willing to bet, the cheapest solution, if cost is the determinimg factor. Otherwise, there's lots of suggestions posted for dealing with the stumps, if you just enjoy doing it yourself..... Not trying ta rain on the parade...

Rod

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Rod in Smiths Falls, ON,

07-21-2005 15:21:54




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
I don't know if you have frost where you live, but if you do wait until the frost is just leaving the ground and yank them out as soon as the ice lets go.

I had a windrow of 25' red cedars down my street when I started into the overgrown shrubs around my house with a 40', 1" poly rope and my SUV in low range. Took me all day to haul them away. When I tried the same thing for a neighbour a month later on dry ground, all I did was break the rope.

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Mac

07-21-2005 13:27:32




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Kipster, the best thing I've found is a big tire rim next to stump to run chain over. Pulls vertical instead of sideways. Like was said hookup to drawbar. Good luck.



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Coloken

07-21-2005 06:13:42




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 dynamite in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Many years ago. I helped an old timer blow cherry stumps out with dynamite. Fast and easy. He used one/half stick of what-ever it was, shoved down under. Most were completly loose, some still hung on a little. He said he wanted the loosened up hole to re-plant. I am not joking. If you can find some one with explosive experience. No, it would not bother the neibours if done right.



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Mike M

07-21-2005 06:26:27




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 Re: dynamite in reply to Coloken, 07-21-2005 06:13:42  
Nowadays the only ones with explosive experience are suicide bombers going to be hard to find one successful in his trade still around to help with the stumps.



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steve_ne

07-21-2005 05:21:48




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
I seen them build a tripod over the stump and winch the stump out using a come a long. If you have a 3pt blade you maybe able to hook thenm just right. Go slow. Get the ground around the roots soaked with water to loosen things up.



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john in la

07-21-2005 04:50:55




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Are you in a hurry to have them out???

If you have a little time cut the stump close to the ground and make some cuts or drill in the remaining stump.

Pour some cream or syrup over the stump then throw a pile of ants on it. The cream will keep the ants intrested in the area so they will build a new nest there. With the ant nest on top the ants will eat the stump out.

It really works.



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txgrn

07-21-2005 05:37:25




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to john in la, 07-21-2005 04:50:55  
I believe you.



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txgrn

07-21-2005 04:24:08




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 Safety Tips in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Didn't read the other responses but a couple of tips.

The drawbar of your tractor is below the axle for a reason. Pulling from below the axle helps to put pressure on the front end which helps to KEEP IT ON THE GROUND....don't neglect this safety issue....no pulling from high up on the rear.

No backing up to the stump and getting a running start.....guaranteed to flip you.

Be ready, at any case to push in the clutch at the slightest indication of the front end wanting to come up. It can flip in a heartbeat so be ready.

No chains around the tires. If the tires can't pull or spin and you are applying power to the drive line the tractor will flip....gotta cause the power has to go somewhere and since the wheel can't turn the tractor will.

Flips are fatal.

Only way I have gotten stumps out is to dig, cut roots, and pull till you find the last root. Some people try to burn them out but they have to be dead and we have a burn ban here and couldn't anyway.

Good luck.

Mark

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Junior Hockey

07-21-2005 03:36:58




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
I was told to chip a little out of the stump and put a little old motor oil in it and the oil will run down in the stump and cause it to rot faster. Also I was told to cut the stump off as close to the groud as I could pile charcoal britkes on it put a old rim over it and start the charcoal burning. It would burn the stump below groud.



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mike brown

07-21-2005 03:12:02




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
My experience with cherry stumps is that they do not rot quickly, at least ones from old trees. I wouldn't cut small ones like that, I'd pull them. Use a long chain with a slip hook on the tree end and hook the other end to your drawbar, Loop the tree end up as high as you can so it rips the roots out of the growund as it bends the tree over. Never hook to any thing but the draw bar! That's what the engineers designed as the safe pull point and never pull over trees that are longer than your chain!

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Galen

07-21-2005 02:11:54




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
I ahve about a MILLION cedar trees on my place. I built a tree shear for next to nothing (scrounged scrap metal). I clipped the trees as close to the ground as I could, and let 'em rot. As long as your not planning on plowing the field, they will rot out in a couple of years. Cherry SHOULD do the same. Just take a chainsaw and cut them as close to the graound as possible so you can mow or hog over them.

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galen

07-21-2005 05:09:09




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to Galen, 07-21-2005 02:11:54  
Galen,

Got any plans for that next to nothing tree shear?



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Steve_ne

07-21-2005 05:10:53




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to galen, 07-21-2005 05:09:09  
That was different. Your name is on the reply? Lets try it again.



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Galen

07-21-2005 05:24:22




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to Steve_ne, 07-21-2005 05:10:53  
Yeah - ODD! I scrolled down the page and saw a response I didn't make! I actually do have plans for the tree shear. Built mine out of scrounged pieces of metal - fits onto the loader bucket. Where you located?



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steve_ne

07-21-2005 06:45:48




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to Galen, 07-21-2005 05:24:22  
Firth,nebraska Got any pictures.



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Mike Van

07-21-2005 02:04:24




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Kip, if you have a lot of time, a chainsaw, & know how to sharpen it, you can dig & clean around each one & saw them off. You only need a few inches below grade, stumps that size shouldn't have huge belled butts yet. I've done several that way, takes time but works fine. The cleaner you get where you will cut, the longer you can saw without sharpening. The old chipper chain will stay sharp longer than the new chisel. I had a 2' dia. Ash & a Cherry on a bank behind my house, their gone now. Some nice not to have to mow & trim around those stumps.

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n0.2

07-20-2005 22:41:22




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
Cherry stumps will rot quickly. The bad thing is that if you don't spray them with something like TORDON they will sprout back quicker. My son has been working on stumps by cutting a couple of 8 to 10 inch half moons out of the open end of a barrel then cutting a couple 6 to 8 inch holes in the bottom of the barrel, turning it upside down over the stump. He then smaller sticks through the 6 to 8 inch hole then lights it through the halfmoon holes now on the bottom. The barrel will concentrate the heat on the stump and act like a chimey.

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peltsi

07-20-2005 22:06:00




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
hello! i agree that pulling stumps might be dangerous, but only if you don"t know how to do it. So as long as you keep the chain mounted on a safe place, and by that i mean somewhere below the rear axle, you"ll be fine.



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Leland

07-20-2005 21:40:02




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
try stacking tires on them and light them after dark if possiable



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Davis In SC

07-20-2005 21:32:28




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to kippster, 07-20-2005 20:12:38  
If you are unable to hire, or use a piece of heavy equipment to do that job, you are better off to let them rot... So many people have been maimed or killed trying to pull stumps with a tractor... As a kid & teen, I pulled hundreds, the only thing that saved me was a cheap chain that was easy to break....It had more bolts & coldshuts than links..... A friend has an 8N that a guy got killed on, the steering wheel is still bent... that tractor gives me the creeps.....

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KBB

07-21-2005 03:24:40




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to Davis In SC, 07-20-2005 21:32:28  
You can also drill holes in the top side were its been sawed off going down toward the root,and pour in table salt,this will not sterilize your soil. It will kill the plant and rot that stump out much quicker.



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chris sweetland

07-21-2005 07:13:26




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to KBB, 07-21-2005 03:24:40  
i agree with KBB just cut them as low as possible first this takes a bout three years to get it completley gone i go back in a year and beat them with a maul if theyre still hard pour more salt in to it you hay have to re drill some holes but this is the cheepest and best way to not get hurt



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steveormary

07-21-2005 10:01:36




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to chris sweetland, 07-21-2005 07:13:26  
Cut a block from a tree trunk that is about 12-18" in diameter. Roll this block as close to the stump as you can. Hook chain around stump,up over the block and to the tractor drawbar. Use low gear and not much throttle. Ease into the pull and stump will come up and out.

Be careful and have fun. steveormary



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Jerry Cent. Mi.

07-21-2005 16:31:00




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 Re: Stump Removal in reply to steveormary, 07-21-2005 10:01:36  
We use to drill the stump and filling with saltpeter. Latter on fill with fuel oil and touch it off. They will burn to the tip of the roots.



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