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BSer

07-02-2005 14:40:36




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I'm in a swampy part of Florida and our driveways turn to mud. Gravel and shell are expensive and aren't a total cure. Who has done soil cement roads? Can I turn the cement in with a disc rather than a rototiller?Will a pull type roller do the job? Advice,guys????? ??




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RGatt

07-04-2005 07:10:38




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
I live in North Georgia. My driveway (on a hill) kept washing out in ruts. I had a few bags of portland cement laying around, tilled them into the clay soil, compacted with a tamper, regraveled over. That was three years ago and I haven"t had any problems. On a work project several years ago, we used fly ash (kiln dust) to stabilize soil on a large area. Tilled it in and let it get rained on. Turned hard as concrete in no time. I think that tilling in would be better than just disking it. The better you mix up the particles the better results you get. To do a driveway in an area with no real freeze/thaw issues, I would give it a try. Fly ash is much less expensive than cement, but you will definitely want to mix it well, probably at least down six inches and then compact. The roller might be enough but a vibratory roller would be better. Maybe you"d want to try this whole process on a small portion to see how it will work for you.

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paul

07-03-2005 22:00:24




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
Here in Minnesota with 4' deep frosts & fine clay soils, that would be a real losing deal all the way around.....

In your mild climate & perhaps sandy soils is this a common practice? I've heard of it, but surely never seen it around 'here'.

-->Paul



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jimNCal

07-03-2005 09:39:55




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
Bus Driver is exactly right. Soil is too fine and the cement has to cover too much surface area to bind it all together. Sand and crushed aggragate are a LOT cheaper then cement.



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Bus Driver

07-03-2005 04:57:17




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
Never actually tried soil cement, studied it and decided against it. To get strength, the amount of cement powder required is enormous compared to the amount of powder required for sand/aggregate as ordinarily used. This is due to the fine particles in soil. Seems to me to be an expensive way to get an inferior result.



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Galen

07-02-2005 17:55:27




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
You can do what is known as "Base Stabilization". Till the soil up, mix in lime (a little portland won't hurt) and till again. Wet down and let dry. Then pave or rock.



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patonenow

07-02-2005 16:43:04




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 Re: soil cement driveways in reply to BSer, 07-02-2005 14:40:36  
Live in WISconsin and cement is ONLY as good as the foundation or type soil supporting it.



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