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pperry

06-22-2005 18:20:19




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what would cause corn to grow uneven?, some stalks are takin off growing fine,{knee high or taller} while the others seem like they are struggling and staying about ankle hight. it is hit and miss threw out the rows. im growing about a 100ft x 50ft plot. i did nothing but plow and disc, then planted. it looks like it may have been part of a old farmers field way back in the day. i have a underground rock wall runnig threw my property and some signs of a old cattle fence around some trees. do you think my soil may need some nitro? thanks perry in michigan

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onefarmer

06-23-2005 07:04:08




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
Where are you at in Mich? I'm in the StJohns area. All the items mentioned by the others are good possibilities but with it being dry around here till is started raining this last week or so I think germination at differant times and rate of growth due to soil moisture or lack of, is the most likely. In my soys I have two crops what germinated with soil moisture when planted May 7 and what germinated when it started raining.

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paul

06-23-2005 06:58:48




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
Corn comes out of the ground & kinda sits there for a while, waiting for hot humid weather to really spurt, the growing point takes off and shoots up in just a few days.... That waiting period it develops a root system, gets ready to grab moisture & fert & grow like crazy.

Anything that slows the corn down will be _very_ noticable about this time of year.

Compaction.
Lack of N.
Too wet.
Insects.
Poor soil.
Too dry.
Seed depth/ spacing.
Shading from weeds.

You need to walk your 'field' and figure out why one plant had a great growth spurt, and the ones a couple feet over did not.

In 3 weeks, the effects will be less noticable, as the corn that had 'issues' will grow out of it & all the corn slows down to concentrate on setting stalk strength & ears & tassels & not so much on growing upward. However, those plants did lose 10-40 bu an acre as they had to play catch-up to the rest of the field.

You are looking at the corn at it's break-away racing phase, and for some reason some of the plants missed the green flag start. You need to figure out why if yield is important to you.

_Just_ adding fert might not help, until you know the real problem causing this.

--->Paul

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steve_ne

06-23-2005 06:48:21




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
I like to use granular 10-10-10 plant food on my sweet corn. covers all my bases and doesn't burn the plants. I also use it on my yard in the spring and trees all year. Hoe or till the soil just under the surface. Broadcast 2 to 3 pounds of 10-10-10 per 100 square feet then water. It sound like it your first year in that field so Come harvest time check the ears of corn to see how many of the ears are missing kernels. Pollination is what gives you nice juciy kernels of corn. If I have time when the ear is just forming on the stock 1/2 inch to and inch ear. I will go out and shake the tassel around to help with polination.

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paul

06-23-2005 07:04:21




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to steve_ne, 06-23-2005 06:48:21  
Field corn will use .8 - 1.2 lbs of N per bu of corn produced. It will also use 20-40 lbs of P & K for the year.

10-10-10 will either short you on N or overload your soil with P & K if you don't balance things out at times with more straight N. Depends on manure used, crop rotation, plowdown clover, etc. The 10-10-10 at 100-150 lbs per acre is a pretty good starter tho.

--->Paul



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steve_ne

06-23-2005 08:50:17




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to paul, 06-23-2005 07:04:21  
In the fall I spread leafs,grass and Chicken manure which are high in P & K. Horse,cow,lama manure seems to be to seedy and have weeds growing wild. I put 10-10-10 so I don't over fertelize and play it safe. I'm no expert on what I'm doing, but haven't killed things yet (lol). Thanks paul might try a little more N on the corn really cann't hurt can it?



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Leroy

06-23-2005 04:50:31




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
Also planting depth problems



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msb

06-22-2005 22:01:00




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
Could be compaction problems too.



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mattd

06-22-2005 19:52:04




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
what nebraska cowman said and if you have some clay ground in you plot the corn wont be as good there and the ground will be harder. our local coop does field mapping. they find what the soil needs and applies it accordingly. you may want to find someone that does this in your area.

matt



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Nebraska Cowman

06-22-2005 19:16:37




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to pperry, 06-22-2005 18:20:19  
and probably lime. if there is moss growing on the soil it is way too sour.



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johnpop!

06-23-2005 03:16:52




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to Nebraska Cowman, 06-22-2005 19:16:37  
Where I come from, uneven corn is more likely the result of wet spots in the soil or varying light conditions.



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Don't Know

06-23-2005 05:46:21




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to johnpop!, 06-23-2005 03:16:52  
I don't know what the problem is either, but there are several large fields near me like that. The height difference is from row to row and also in the same row. These fields have not been like this in the past. These fields are on different farms and vary from 60 to 200 plus acres. I see this on my 35 mile drive to work each day.



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pperry

06-23-2005 11:58:53




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 Re: uneven corn? in reply to Don't Know, 06-23-2005 05:46:21  
thanks for the replys. i have been keeping it watered and i weeded it twice. this is the first year for crop in this area. this will be my corn and garden spot for now on.i do have a few trees that shade some areas during the day. so ill have to do some trimmin come fall. 95% of my propety is woods, so i am kinda limited to where i can grow.



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