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bruce c werner

06-13-2005 19:34:26




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Has anyone heard of a "Sherman Gear" for a 8-N tractor that allows low gear to be super low and grandma to enable the tractor to run a 50 inch or so tiller at proper forward speed? I knew a man once that had one, he tilled up my place with one of these., I need one now. Bruce




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Dell (WA)

06-14-2005 22:12:22




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 Re: sherman gear in reply to bruce c werner, 06-13-2005 19:34:26  
Bruce..... ...Yes and NO. Sherman's were a dealer installed aux-tranny. There are 2-speed OverDrive Shermans with a "L" shifter lever over yer left toe. There are some less common 2-speed UnderDrive Shermans with a "L" shifter lever over yer left toe.

Then there is the more common and popular 3-speed Combo Shermans (OD + UD + Std) with a crooked doglegged "S" shifter over yer left toe.

Problem with UnderDrive is it slows the PTO rpms too and really doesn't slow the tractor groundspeed enuff to rototill. What you NEED is the rare and fragile Howard after-tranny rototiller auxillary transmission. (Howard is about 3.5:1 gearing slowdown; Sherman UD is about 1.66:1 slowdown)

Every spring, this great 8N-Board gitts inn-queeries about rototillin' with their 8N-Tractors; the answers is always the same. The 8N-Tractor is too high groundspeed for rototillin' but are great 2-bottom plowin' fool. (it'll plow an acre in about 1-hr but you'd rototill for 4-hrs for that same acre).

There are some that'll "bragg" about rototillin' with their 8N-Tractors, then they'll conffess take'm 4-6 passes with the rototiller before they gotten the soil tilth conditioned. Thats 16-24/hrs for 1-acre. Badd enuff to spend 8-hrs mowin' 16-acres of hay.

Back in the 70's, used to see 8N-Tractors pullin' 3-point mounted AUX ENGINED rototillers thru the grapefields near Lodi, Calif. Don't know who made the rototillers with extra engine. Didn't really care 'cuz I was cowboy'n and real cowboys ride horses (grin).

Iff'n Ya just gottta rototill, RENT a rototiller tractor ($100/day)..... ....Dell

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Realllllllly Slow

06-14-2005 12:36:54




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 Re: sherman gear in reply to bruce c werner, 06-13-2005 19:34:26  
If you want a slow Ford check this out.

http://www.marvinbaumann.com/fourtrans.html



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Leroy

06-14-2005 05:26:43




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 Re: sherman gear in reply to bruce c werner, 06-13-2005 19:34:26  
The Sherman would also have reduced the PTO speed and would not gain anything except allowing your engine to run faster at corect PTO speed, I agree it would have had to have been one of the very fragil and very rare (Have never been able to find a tractor with one in to see what it looks like) Howdards, lots of information over on the N-board about these



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Coldiron

06-13-2005 21:16:14




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 Re: sherman gear in reply to bruce c werner, 06-13-2005 19:34:26  
Bruce, It is doubtful that the man had a Sherman on his N tractor and running a tiller efficiently. He more than likely had a Howard set up that the makers of the Howard Tillers made for the N series tractors as well as other makes.
My Sherman Combo will make her get way down there in 1st Low but it is still a little fast for the tiller to work right unless it is real soft ground.



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JoeK

06-13-2005 20:17:50




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 Re: sherman gear in reply to bruce c werner, 06-13-2005 19:34:26  
You are prolly referring to the Sherman Auxilary transmissions that were first an aftermarket and later an option on older N-100 series 3&4spd Fords.Available in "step down gearing",step up gearing and combo(hi/std/low)units..they installed between the clutch and standard transmission inside the clutch housing.Not an item you can just go somewhere and buy,but the do come up for sale on Ebay and from various sources.Best bet here would be to post your need on the "N-board" on this site.

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