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Rake and Bale at the same time

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Jerald Syphrett

06-11-2005 15:31:28




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Can you imagine 1/2 the time in the field and saving 40% on cost.
go to www.balerconnection.com
and see it for your self, were going to have live demonstrations all summer in Kansas and Texas.




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RayP(MI)

06-13-2005 05:22:36




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
Not in my operation - I need the drying period after hay is in windrow, before baling. Usually mow first day, rake second, and bale third day.



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Roy in UK

06-12-2005 13:15:14




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
The baler is much to far away from the tractor, you can't see if it is feeding right and if the twine/net wrap is working OK. That very long drive shaft is going to be under an awful lot of strain I think. Apart from anything else it looks as you need a half an acre to turn the whole outfit around. Its a gimmick.



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Jerald

06-13-2005 18:35:52




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Roy in UK, 06-12-2005 13:15:14  
Appreciate the reply- while this system can be utilized for all makes and year models of baling equipment it is in fact geared more towards the progressive farmer/rancher that has a computer moniter in the cab that provides the feed readings for twine and net wrap.
The strain as you say is simply not an issue.
The drive train is designed to operate under a five thousand pound unadirectional.
We use constant velocity joints and maximum ball bearings for thrust in either direction.
The rake can be used seperately or in conjunction with the baler. We have logged over four thousand hours with no failures to the drive line.
Many of our clients have had concerns such as yours, however after testing the product for themselves they will never return to their previous methods.
While it appears this product requires a large amount of space to be turned around or manuevered in the field it has been tested and proven the system will follow the tractor as tightly as it will turn without binding.
We will be hosting test demos in several areas of Kansas and Texas during the Summer, please join us to see and operate the equipment as we will be hosting these demos on various types of forage and field conditions, we would also be willing to send contact info for the clients presently using the system.

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Loren

06-12-2005 10:08:10




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
The only thing I can see as much of a benefit is picking up the wind blown out windrows better.



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Jerald

06-13-2005 18:39:07




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Loren, 06-12-2005 10:08:10  
The Rake can be used with or with out the baler attached.
Depending on the size of the Rake.... you can pull as many as three windrows together to make 1/3 as many trips down the field at the same ground speed.



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Mike (WA)

06-12-2005 08:39:16




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
Might work in real hot, dry country, but not for me. I usually wait until most of the swath is ready to bale before I rake- but still have to wait 3 or 4 hours at least after raking, for the "green clumps" to dry out.



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Sid

06-11-2005 16:58:11




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
I can see where this would be a good idea.



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Not For Me

06-11-2005 15:57:40




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Jerald Syphrett, 06-11-2005 15:31:28  
Can you imagine spontaneous combustion from baling too damp?



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txgrn

06-12-2005 07:05:39




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Not For Me, 06-11-2005 15:57:40  
Take me for example. Friday afternoon I cut a haygrazer field. Grass was about 5' tall and made a full windrow on each pass.

The grass had so much water in the stems that you could just look at it clumped in the cutter and see the water all over it.

The top part has cured very well but the bottom is in contact with the ground (moisture there) and is "mulched" by the top cover, both of which help it contain it's moisture.

I am going out this afternoon to roll it over and may do that one or more times before it's ready to bale, which may be 5 or 6 days from cutting.

Lots of new ideas are out there to make things better for us (supposedly) but need to be evaluated thoroughly....case in point: no-till farming. I have a problem with weeds if some sort of weed control isn't exercised annually and sometimes semiannually. Gotta spray or plow and spraying is a real bear where I am.

Mark

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Jerald

06-13-2005 18:44:26




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to txgrn, 06-12-2005 07:05:39  
You are correct, we to plant haygrazer.
Drying time veries apon the method of cutting.
The value of our Rake lets you pull several windrows together after proper dry time.
The Rake can be used with or with out the baler attached.



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jerald

06-11-2005 17:41:41




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 Re: Rake and Bale at the same time in reply to Not For Me, 06-11-2005 15:57:40  
as baling any type or kind of hay you need to wait till its ready for baling.



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