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Allan in NE

06-05-2005 07:09:29




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Mornin',

I've forgotten how noisey these old tractors are. Last time I used my tractor, I couldn't hear for about 6 hours.

Where does a guy find a set of those ear protectors; the "mickey mouse", "outside" ones?

Thanks,

Allan

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Ernie Bob

06-06-2005 23:18:33




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allen,
I bought mine at the local stock car track, I think they were about $12 - $15 a pair. You might also check a sporting goods store, they are very popular with target shooters.

Hope This Helps
Ernie Bob



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Jrry

06-06-2005 07:14:04




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allen, that's what I tell my wife when she thinks I am ignoring her. My MF diesel is very load but my IH 240 gas is so quiet I have to check the rpm guage to be sure it is running.



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Tip

06-06-2005 05:53:02




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Hey Allen, try Peltor - you can find them on the web. They sell everything from aviation headsets to cell phone headsets. For industrial use, they make something called the "Alert" which has a radio and external mic's with noise suppression. Listen to the radio and, if you want to hear stuff, you can turn on the "tin ear" and hear fine. If the noise gets too loud, it cuts out and protects your hearing.

You can also get their Worktunes for less than $100 - no "tin ear", but nice radio. I spent too much time on a tractor as a kid so I am paying for it now. I use the Alert for everything - chainsaws, weedwackers, tractors, even carpentry. Worth the $150 or so dollars!

Regards, Tip

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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 06:03:46




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Tip, 06-06-2005 05:53:02  
Thanks Tip,

I used to have a couple of sets of those things that when not in use, would just hang on the grab rails of the tractor.

Left 'em outside in all kinds of weather and they still always seemed to do the job, for years on end. I think they were around something like $30 or so?

I just don't listen to the darned radio anyway; plus, I need to be able to hear the machinery.

Thanks Bud,

Allan

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BobinKY

06-06-2005 05:38:57




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Well, evidently Kim blocked the web site I was referencing. (sorry Kim) I only offered it up as an information site for hearing protection. I am a Doctor of Audiology and I deal with this all of the time. I will open my E mail if anyone wants to contact me about hearing protection



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BobinKY

06-06-2005 05:34:52




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
There is a very good web site for this kind of information. Check out They have a good variety of hearing protection and they can show you the different kinds.



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New-Gen

06-06-2005 03:10:39




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Well so far you've gotten 36 replies (37 counting mine), and about as may opinions..so I might as well give mine...
I bought a pair of the Mickey Mouse type at Fastenal. I don't know if you have Fastenal industrial supply stores where you are but I'm sure there's an equivlent.
As someone down below said, it's well worth the small price difference to get the good ones at a place like this rather than at a TSC or whatever.
By the way....That old 966 looks almost good enough to make me wanna switch colors! (Well, almost)

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Mark - IN.

06-05-2005 21:11:50




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Hey ya Allan, I'd tell you to grab a bunch from one of the power plants (noiiiisy in them places), but I don't suppose you go into them much. Personally, I prefer the foam stuffers like Mark suggested - much more comfortable than the ear muff kind - twist, stuff, let expand.

Back in the early eighties, moved to Chicago for a while, and had to catch the "L" (over and under subway). When them things went underground into the tunnels, was deafening. Once seen an elderly poor guy sitting there, and he stuffed a nickle in each ear. Not bad. Not sure how he got them out though. Maybe not good. LOL.

Mark

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Way Up Here

06-05-2005 20:44:44




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
You're running out of ideas, excuses, and questions to ask just so you can post those nice photos of your beautiful tractors. I must say that is one lovely looking unit.



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Allan in NE

06-06-2005 04:55:18




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Way Up Here, 06-05-2005 20:44:44  
Hi Guy,

Yes, you are probably right. I'll see if I can keep that old camera hog off here. :>)

Sure didn't mean to offend ya and thanks for the help,

Allan



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AZ Jack

06-05-2005 20:55:05




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Way Up Here, 06-05-2005 20:44:44  
Yes "way up here"-I agree on both counts.



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JoeMN

06-05-2005 16:17:26




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
The Bose electronic noise cancelling headphone is excellent,probably the best available to consumers. Also comfortable for extended wear. To screen out loud radios and other distractions in the post office I used the insertable foam earplugs with a 29 decibel reduction plus the Bose muffs,pretty well eliminates noise.



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Hurst

06-05-2005 16:04:49




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Saw them just the other night in the gun section of Walmart. Good luck.

Hurst



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Galen

06-05-2005 15:31:49




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
I got a pair at the local TSC type store - the ones used for chainsaws.



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Redmud

06-05-2005 14:48:17




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Get em at the gun shop, you'll be happy you did. Detroit and aircraft engines caused me to get aids, one in each ear.



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Farmer Gene (NW WI)

06-05-2005 14:31:03




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Bass pro shop carries a good variety of ear protectors I always wear a pair especially on the tractors with turbos.



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Les

06-05-2005 13:24:44




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allan, I can't wear those ear muff types for very long before they start to hurt my head. I worked in a sawmill for years and was also in the Field Artillery for about 13 years. To me there's nothing any better than those foam/sponge squeezy type ones. When they get dirty, just grab another pair. They work great and they don't hurt.
I suppose if you REALLY wanted some protection, you could use both.

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Coldiron

06-05-2005 15:25:44




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Les, 06-05-2005 13:24:44  
Allen and Les, I worked in a large steam plant with over 110 cont. decibels and wore the company supplied ear muffs that allowed hard hats to be worn also. Underneath the muffs I wore the soft earplugs and with both of them working I was comfortable but learned to read lips pretty good. White noise is another way to overcome loud noises.



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Les

06-05-2005 16:50:29




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Coldiron, 06-05-2005 15:25:44  
We had our own sign language in the sawmill. Not very refined. Probably about like chimpanzees might use. Decibels were between 110 and 118 in that building.
I seem to remember that a lot of those gestures were made using mostly just one finger.
";^)



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Coldiron

06-05-2005 18:13:33




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Les, 06-05-2005 16:50:29  
Those one finger signs seem to work in most working environments. Now days you have to be politicaly correct and put your hand in your pocket to make that sign. LOL



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John A.

06-05-2005 12:46:28




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allan, Next time you are at IH or Parts store, Get the 2 ft extension for your 966 and 686 too. That will help get the noise and fumes up and away from your face and ears. Yes it will help!
Later,
John A.



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caseyc

06-05-2005 11:56:26




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
hey allen,
when i brought the 766 home last fall the first thing i did was take that silly muffler off and put on a nice stack. man it sounded cool all winter. then came spring and i hooked up the disc. the stack came off and muffler went back on once my hearing came back a couple of days later! it never ran long in the winter or more than half throttle for that fact. i hear ya, those 360's are loud!

casey

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Dug

06-05-2005 11:33:04




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Firearms dealers sell a variety. I would suggest in the ear plugs, easy to use and store. Slip in your pocket when you don't need them. Check the noise cancelling ability before you buy. Cheap ones won't provide the proper protection and give a false sense of protection.
Go see an actual gun dealer, not a big box, chain discount gun retailer.

Dug

BTW That weren't a dumb question.

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bj/8n/mt

06-05-2005 10:44:03




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Try the site below. If they don't have it I wouldn't know who would.

Your mileage may vary



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JDknut

06-05-2005 11:17:11




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to bj/8n/mt, 06-05-2005 10:44:03  
Nice lookin' 966!!!



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Davis In SC

06-05-2005 10:32:48




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Back when I spent many hours at the shooting range, I tried many types of hearing protection. Best muffs I got were made by Clark. Green ones. I think they are the same outfit that makes headsets for aviation.



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Stickler

06-05-2005 23:23:12




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Davis In SC, 06-05-2005 10:32:48  
Yep. Clark's the best. We use their noise cancelling ones with the directional microphones in the power plant. Pretty much like the aviation models. Some don't like them, say they get tight after a while and they use the foam plugs. I'm the opposite, plugs give me headaches. My 666 gasser is fairly loud too. I'f I'm gonna be on it for very long I wear MSA muffs. Same outfit that make the self-contained breathing apparatus that fire fighters use. I wish I could snag a set of those Clarks from work to use at home. The old Kenworth is pretty loud too. LOL!

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Van in AR

06-05-2005 10:00:57




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allen,
Thats not a dumb question at all. Try and find the top end protectors with the gel in the padding with the low tension band, they are way more comfortable than the cheapies. The cheapies make my head hurt after a while. You may not be able to get good ones locally, mine were issued by the AF. Any shooting supply or industrial supply company will have a plethora of em. Check the net. Save them ears.
Van

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jimont

06-05-2005 09:08:58




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allan - Don't buy the "cheapy" ones at TSC,Walmart etc. There's a world of difference between those cheapies and those sold in industrial supply houses. Worth every penny to go for the best ----- you have only one set of ears !!!



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matthies

06-05-2005 07:57:11




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
By the looks of your muffler, is it an aftermarket one? The cheaper ones are alot noiser than the original/factory ones. One thing I noticed. chris



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Allan in NE

06-05-2005 08:11:53




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to matthies, 06-05-2005 07:57:11  
Hi Chris,

Nope, that be the factory muffler straight from CaseIH.

It isn't the exhaust that is noisey on these old things, anyway. It is the engine noise. The 360Ds are worse yet fer some darned reason. The 360s will flat scramble your brains. :>(

Allan



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old

06-05-2005 07:55:45




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Go to a gun shop, most of the time they will sell them, if you find one with an in door range they will also be sure to have them.



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Aussietractor

06-05-2005 14:53:26




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to old, 06-05-2005 07:55:45  
Be wary of buying earmuffs from a gunshop they could be rated differently for shooting, as against machinery induced noises,



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old

06-05-2005 15:05:55




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 14:53:26  
Yes they sre they are rated for a sharp crack at high DB, which means they would be over rated for the tractor thats why they work very well for driveing loud tractors.



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Dave (IL)

06-05-2005 07:40:28




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Allan, Is that the "new" one, the one that's been in the shop?

I haven't been here much lately, so I must have missed the coming out party. :)



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Allan in NE

06-05-2005 08:06:20




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Dave (IL), 06-05-2005 07:40:28  
Hi Dave,

Yeah, where the heck ya been? :>)

Yes, that's the one that was in the shop since forever and broke the bank to get it outta hock. Here's the "before and after" pics. :>)

Just plain forgot how noisey those old 966s are. No wonder my ol pee brain doesn't work right anymore. :>)

Allan

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Dave (IL)

06-05-2005 08:17:52




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 08:06:20  
Very sharp!!
Sure glad we didn't lose you. That's a lot of iron to be dropping 20 feet.

I decided I'd better go back to work to support my toys. Now I don't have any time for toys. 60 mile one way commute around Chicago on the "Don't even try-state". After 3 months, I guess they're gonna keep me, so maybe I can start slipping in here from work :)

1066 (I think) down the road with a for sale sign on it.

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Coloken

06-05-2005 07:29:42




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Try the airport. Jet engines. Slow roll ought to have an extra. An Allan, do me a favor, and the next time you park your tractors on your hill/driveway, put a rock-a BIG rock- under the wheel. I'm refering to a picture from about a week ago.
Kenny



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Allan in NE

06-05-2005 07:54:14




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Coloken, 06-05-2005 07:29:42  
Hi Ken,

You should have seen it when I found out that the brakes weren't working right. Embarrased to show that picture. I just about lost her down over the side of a 20 foot drop.

Went tearing into the local shop that had rebuilt the brakes and he says that he didn't replace that innermost disc with the pad glued to it and thinks that the pad had come loose from the disc.

Anyway, they say they'll fix 'er up, but in the meantime, she hasn't turned a wheel. I'm still shaken over that one. :>(

Allan

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txgrn

06-05-2005 07:16:43




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Home depot probably. I use the little yellow foam cylindrical dudes from Harbor Freight. You squeeze them and roll them up. Stick them in your ear and the foam expands filling the canal. Work great.

Mark



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Sid

06-05-2005 07:13:36




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:09:29  
Outdoor equipment store, hardware store sporting goods store frearms section. Last but not least WAL MART.



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Mike (WA)

06-05-2005 09:14:18




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Sid, 06-05-2005 07:13:36  
IMHO- "Last, and certainly least, WALMART."



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Dave (IL)

06-05-2005 09:48:34




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Mike (WA), 06-05-2005 09:14:18  
No Harbor Freight? I got some there.



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sdloy

06-05-2005 11:14:32




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to Dave (IL), 06-05-2005 09:48:34  
Whatever you buy, check the nrr [noise reduction rating] on the package. The in the ear foam plugs usually have a better rating than muffs and don't interfere with glasses, caps, etc. If you really want muffs, you might want to check into the electronic ones. They have a mic and speakers and kick out over a preset decibel level. You can carry on a normal conversation until the noise level gets too high. Loy

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TimS

06-06-2005 09:24:08




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 Re: Dumbest Question Yet in reply to sdloy, 06-05-2005 11:14:32  
I use the foam plugs sometimes, a hard hat with muffs and face scren for chainsaw use and the worktunes muffs with the radio built in for tractor use.

The worktunes block all the loud noise, and I can still hear any 'odd' sounds or sounds that don't belong so I can hear if something comes loose, brushhog wraps up some wire, etc.

Luckily I have all the wire picked up around our place now, but its amazing how stuff keeps coming out of the ground...

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