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Aussietractor

06-05-2005 02:08:22




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Can anyone give me the correct info on running lug tires on sealed roads? Does it help to reverse the tires rotation to lessen wear or is it an old wifes tale? Also should air pressures be adjusted for same reasons. Please dont guess.




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Rod F.

06-05-2005 15:07:46




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
The best solution I have found for reducing tire wear is to install radial tires, inflated to the manufacturers specs for the weight you are carrying. The radials that I run, and others that I have seen are wearing twice as long as a bias tire on ashphalt. The industrial tires also seem to wear better on the road. The major benefit to radials is that you don't lose the traction you would by installing a turf tire. Something to think about. Good luck.

Rod

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Aussietractor

06-05-2005 13:52:00




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Thanks for all your input you blokes [Aussie for guys] I have had a set of turf/diamond pattern tyres on previous tractor and they certainly wear much slower than the lug tires I am presently running. When these tires wear out I will put turf tires on. I am just trying to prolong the life of current tires.
Sid, Good idea for you to come to Aus,and anyone else looking to see how some of the best farmers in the world do it. If you do get the chance, don't get stuck in the big cities, real Aus is in the regional areas.
PS At present, SE Aus in 4 year drought, so there is plenty of dust about, you might wont to wait until thimgs improve or go to the west, conditions there are pretty good.

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MSM

06-05-2005 13:33:24




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Go with an industrial type tire. They are made for combination road/field work and wear well. They are a harder rubber and heavier ply which for your bush hogging work would be to your advantage. They will not cut as easily,they usually turn thorns and bramble stickers,and aren't quite as agressive tread tread wise so you won't tear up ground on sharp turns.Reversing the tire only works on a rotating or non drive load(trailer,grain cart, etc) They will wear just as quickly,just with a different pattern on a drive application. As you road a tire,they tend to "grow" due to centrifical force,putting more wear on the center,adding more air will accelerate the center wear by forcing the center out even more.

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Allan in NE

06-05-2005 07:18:06




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Hi Guy,

Depends on how your local people mix down their road surfaces.

Here in Nebraska they tend to use a lot of aggresive gravel as oppossed to sand for winter travel purposes.

The paved roads will eat an ag tire up, I don't care if it is reversed, inside out, 50 lbs of air or 2. Paved roads just plain ruin ag tires around here. No gettin' around it.

Allan



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John A.

06-05-2005 12:41:14




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Allan in NE, 06-05-2005 07:18:06  
Aussie, I Second what Allan said here! Same here in Texas too. Amen!
Later,
John A.



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720Deere

06-05-2005 06:21:16




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Tires do wear better on the road when the tread is reversed. Higher air pressure also helps. We run the front tires of road graders reversed for better wear.



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Jaker2

06-05-2005 12:52:06




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to 720Deere, 06-05-2005 06:21:16  
Is that really why the road grader tires are reversed? I always thought is was so the mud that flew off of the tire went forward instead of bakcwards onto the windshield. I guess you learn something everyday.



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720Deere

06-06-2005 18:10:12




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Jaker2, 06-05-2005 12:52:06  
Mud seems to fly off the tire the first chance it gets no matter what direction the tread is facing. The logic that I always got was the wear issue. The front tires wear 100% better than the rear, but that's just because the front axle is usually not a driven axle. The spinning of the rear tires greatly reduces their wear.



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txgrn

06-05-2005 05:51:06




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Having noticed the pattern developed from farmers in my area that have distant fields, and discussing tractor tread patterns with them, it is my opion that reversing the tread will reverse the wear..... hence even out the ridging.

How-some-ever.....entering the field and attempting to do work probably will be a disappointment; if you are going to do some real work.

Mark



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Tx Jim

06-05-2005 05:47:29




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 02:08:22  
Aussietractor,how many miles are you planning on roading tractor?I've heard that reversing direction of rear tires leasoned wear for highway travel. I think increasing psi would help slow wear as tread wouldn't flex as much.After watching the movie Crocidile Dundee I didn't know Australia had any asphalt roads.Just kidding!!I custom bale hay and have 2 tractors that see alot of asphalt and tires last several yrs. so I'll not alter anything.Tx Jim

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Aussietractor

06-05-2005 06:37:33




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Tx Jim, 06-05-2005 05:47:29  
Thanks Mark & Tx Jim for your input. Yes Tx Jim you are quite correct in thinking that there are no asphalt roads here, in fact all the roads are pathed with gold. Just kidding!! On a more serious note I use my tractor as a grass slashing contractor [is this the same as what you people from up over call hogging, haven't quite worked out that word out yet, can anyone help me aslo on this if I've got it wrong.] I cover quite a considerable distance on roads, traveling to and between jobs each day. I don't require a lot of grip for this type of work, in fact less is best if I happen to run into something unseen in the grass, tires might tend to slip and do less damage to tractor/slasher. Tx Jim are you indicating that you haven't reversed your tires? Would about 20 psi do the trick.

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Tx Jim

06-05-2005 08:59:43




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 turf tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 06:37:33  
aussietractor,no I haven't reversed my tires but was told several yrs.ago that it would slow wear.As far as increasing psi I think it would have to be in the 30/35 psi range to help tread flex.Turf tires do wear better on hi-way than ag. tires as I have run a 3000 Ford with turf tires for 8 yrs. in my hay baling business with little wear but DO NOT attempt to cross mud hole unless a TOW is handy. Tx Jim

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Sid

06-05-2005 07:09:29




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 Re: roadgoing lug tires in reply to Aussietractor, 06-05-2005 06:37:33  
If "grass slashing" is mowing thick grass and weeds {sometimes brush} with a rotary mower,yes that is what some of us call "brush hogging" or "hogging". It comes from the brand name of a popular rotary mower "Bush Hog". "brush hog" in some areas is used for all rotery mower by some regardless of brand. Have you considered another type of tread design for your tractor. We have what is refered to an "orchard" or "turf" type tread that are used on turf farms and some orchards. It is a diamond type tread. If I ever get to visit a foriegn country it will be Australia before any other.

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