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Canadian

05-20-2005 18:25:37




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I was wondering what some distances are between cedar posts are. I am picking up some 8.5 foot posts and wanting to make a fence suitable for some farm fence. Was thinking of using wire without the barbs with one hot wire??? Does this sound proper for horses or cows? what is the maximum safe spans between posts? How many wire would you use?

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Canadian

05-21-2005 10:26:21




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-20-2005 18:25:37  
Thanks for all the input. That is why this board is so great; all the help!

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FarmerDave

05-22-2005 17:34:26




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-21-2005 10:26:21  
I fence cattle with a low impedance charger. I run two wires of 12.5 gauge high tensile. If the land is flat I space the line posts at 50'. My corners are 5" round wood with floating braces.

If the terain is uneven I add more posts to keep the wires at about the right heights.

You want to spread your posts out to cut your costs. It's not a mechanical barrier, it's physcological. I have a two joule charger and the cows leave that fence alone.

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paul

05-21-2005 00:29:09




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-20-2005 18:25:37  
Regular fence or high-tensile?

Regular fence 16 feet is a pretty big span, 8 feet is a lot of posts.

In my soil/ conditions a great fence is alternating wood & steel T posts, about 8-12 feet apart. The wood holds upright better, the steel lasts longer after the wood rots - gives you a chance to get things fixed down the road a few decades....

For a small yard to house them over winter, lock them up, etc. you want a lot of fence wire, a lot of posts, 8 feet or less apart. Good to have woven wire 32" high, barbed, and a hot barbed on top.

For a pasture area where they will not be so hard on the fence, a little less wire & wider spacing works fine, esp with electric involved. Have seen 3-5 wires in this situation, top one hot.

My Holstien cross' like to test a fence, even electric. They use smooth wire for a rubbibg spot, barbed is better. Including the electric one.

The closer the posts, the longer the fence will last. The farther spaced, the cheaper it is. Pretty much how it is.

High tensile is a different game, you want to stretch that wire fiddle-string tight (with springs to allow movement) between the corners, and only a few posts/ stays are used to keep the wires seperated - I've heard of 30-50 feet between real posts, a stay or 2 along the way - and massive anchor corner posts of course. Works best in fairly level straight fence, lose any advantage in rugged up/down or small corners type of fencing.

Horses are a different thing. Some high-strung horses will hurt themselves on barbed, and jump through a high-tensile like an egg through an egg slicer - they need a more visable fence. Other folks get along with these types of fences & a horse just fine. Me I have no experience, just what I hear on the horse thing.

Give cattle enough pasture to not be hungry, & a single barbed electric wire will hold them most of the time.....

--->Paul

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kyhayman

05-20-2005 20:21:03




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-20-2005 18:25:37  
Custom here (for cattle fence) for a line fence is woven wire, 48" high with a barb on top, #9 wire/12" stay or #9 top and bottom, 11 ga fill on 6" stay. Wood posts 20' apart with 2 steel posts between.

Interior fence is typically 9/11 woven on 12" stay, barb on top or 3/4 strand barbwire. A few of us that are intensive grazing will use electric to rotate pastures.

Horses pretty much get plank. 4 plank, posts on 8' with bat boards. All the plank is 1x6x16.

Thats how it is here, your area may differ.

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thurlow

05-20-2005 19:02:26




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-20-2005 18:25:37  
Are you talking about the new (at least around "here") high-tensile fencing? For conventional fencing we placed posts about 10 ft apart. About 30 years ago, tried putting the posts 30 ft apart and using 2 or 3 stay-wires between each post; worked good when new, but over time, it fell out of favor. Couple of local guys have installed 6 or 7 strand high-tensile; with 50 inches annual rainfall and the honeysuckle and multi-flora rose, I'm not sure how good it'll work in the long run. Lots of sites dealing with it..... ...

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Dug

05-20-2005 18:40:19




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Canadian , 05-20-2005 18:25:37  
10-12 foot between the posts is fine.

For horses you need a woven wire fence with small holes to keep them from getting tangled. Running a hot wire will keep them off the fence.

For cattle, just a hot wire will keep them contained.

Dug



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steveormary

05-20-2005 20:45:45




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 Re: building a fence in reply to Dug, 05-20-2005 18:40:19  
After setting corner post and brace post went 25" from corner post and drove a steel post. Set 3 wood posts at 25" spacing and then a steel post again.Ran 4 strands of barb wire spaced a hammer length apart.Snugged wire up with the Ferguson and finished with a wire stretcher. Stapled up wire and went on to the next one. Started with top wire and worked down. It worked for Dad so figgured it would work for me.steveormary

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mike brown

05-21-2005 04:52:36




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 Re: building a fence in reply to steveormary, 05-20-2005 20:45:45  
I had beef cattle for a number of years and used a single wire with the hottest charger I could find with good success. If I were to do it over I would use high tensile. I don't see the need for so many strands except that the fencing companies want to sell more wire. I found that with multiple strands I had to trim under the fence. With single wire the cows trimmed under the fence.
With horses it depends what breed you have. High strung horses are stupid around an electric fence. I have Morgans and they learned to respect the fence quickly and I have no problems.

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Joel Harman

05-21-2005 05:31:07




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 Re: building a fence in reply to mike brown, 05-21-2005 04:52:36  
equines need to be trained about elec fences. Offer thenm some grain over 1 & make sure fence is hot. 1 zap & they respect it unless something is chasing them.



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