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Elec. Tape Fencing???????

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SJ

04-30-2005 13:27:02




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Looking for some input on electric tape fencing.Gonna fence in about 7-8 acres for my horses.Would like to go with a nice 4 rail wood fence(yeah right I can afford that,lol).Is there different types of quality tape? How far should poles be apart(I will go with wood poles though)?I have t-post now with wire on about 5 acres and I hate the way they look and always foolin with the wire.Will I have the same problem with tape? I notice some going down the road that seem to have sagged.Does the price and quality of your tape come into play with this sagging problem.Does it help any if your corner posts are larger diameter than the others? Will be using a 3pt post hole digger,how deep should poles be? Should I use concrete on corner poles? Also is there any stategy in having more than one gate to get into a pasture(ie.one on the other end to exit without having to go all the way around).Is there any special tools you can use to map out your fence lines and pole markings?I just ran string in the past and all that did was get in the way and catch your ear a few times hurts like heck,lol.On second thought why dont I just post my address and a bunch of you guys just show up some weekend.Ill have all the grub and beer here.lol.Well thats all the questions I can think of right now,any more input would be appreciated.
Thanks Stan

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Kerry

05-01-2005 19:42:45




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
Check out this site www.rammfence.com If you don't read this, at least go to this site. It is a wealth of info.
I am in Ohio. I bought my hi-tensile wire from this company. Staples were included with the wire. I was able to find the other supplies, such as tensioners and insulators, at other supply stores like Tractor Supply Co. I originally used four strands of coated 12 1/2 gauge hi-tensile and one strand of bare 12 1/2 gauge hi-tensile wire. I placed the bare wire as the second strand down from the top at head level of my horse. I recently added two goats to the field. I had to add two more strands of bare hi-tensile. I placed one above and one below the bottom coated wire. I have electric on the bare wires only. The bottom wire is only about 6-8 inches above ground so I spray under the fence line to keep weeds and grass from growing up against the fence and grounding out the electric fencer. I used Southern Yellow pine fence posts. They should last a life-time. You need to get them from a reputable dealer, though, there are some Yellow Pine that aren't as good as others. I used 6-8 inch diameter post, 8 feet long for the corners and end posts as well as the second post from the end and corner. Place the second (brace) post 8 feet from the corner. A distance less than 6ft. can pull the corner post out of the ground. If you don't understand any of this, I can give more details later. I used 4-5 inch posts, 7 ft. long for the fence line placed 12ft. apart. I could have gone 14ft. and been fine. All of my posts are 4 1/2 ft. out of the ground. Yes I planted the 8ft. posts 3 1/2ft deep. I dug them by hand but used quickrete to set them. I used a one man post hole digger for the line posts and tamped dirt around all the line posts. There are people who drive posts for fence, usually for around $1 a post. Email me if you have any questions.

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T_Bone

04-30-2005 21:36:08




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
Hi Stan,

I've been researching electric fence for a couple years. I'm wanting to put in the longest lasting fence I can for the least amount of cost but the best fence at the same time. I'm in the Arizona desert so it's very dry ground. Only steel or concrete will last thru the summer heat for many years.

I'm going with what they call a New Zealand style fence, top hot, second ground, thrid hot, at 5ft high top 12.5ga wire, wire spaced every 14".

6" round Concrete corner and center posts (brown concrete coloring) with 1/4" nylon tube inside the concrete for insulator tie off point. I making metal forms out of 6" round duct with flatbar for the seam joints.

T-post spaced 20ft or so for intermediate posts with standard UV rated offsets.

Spring loaded ratchet tighteners on the center posts.

There's been a few threads on this forum and the tool forum over the years for a good read. You might want to search the archives at the top of each forum.

T_Bone

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Frank M.

04-30-2005 18:52:28




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
The poly wire is not meant for a permanent electric fence. If you want electric, for your perimeter fence, you'd be a lot better off with the high tensile fence mentioned earlier. Poly wire is light weight and is great for temporary fences, but you wouldn't like it in your situation.



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Jim from PA

05-01-2005 04:24:35




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to Frank M., 04-30-2005 18:52:28  
Frank The polywire I am using IS high tensile. It just has a coating to protect the horses from being sliced up if the run into or get caught up in the fence.AND it is not temporary fencing material. High tensile is great for permanant fencing until a horse gets caught up in it and slices its legs up trying to get free. Uncoated high tensile is NOT recomended for horses. I also am not a fan of T-Posts and that cheap light weight wire you mentioned. As well as protecting your horses I feel horse owners also have a responsability to keep their horses from escaping and possible endangering people or propery. There are plently of morons where I live that their horses escape on a regular basis because of inadequate fencing. Only a matter of time until one runs in front of a car going down the road and hurts or kills someone. My opinion is if you cant afford to secure your horse properly, then you shouldn't own one.

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txgrn

04-30-2005 17:56:07




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
Pay attention dude.

1 1/4" schedule 40 pvc.

3' off ground plus what you want under (2'?); total length per pole 4.5 to 5 feet.

Drill hole thru for wire to run in (3 -4 " from top)

11 Ga galv hot wire

30' apart.

Get you a fence charger.

You ain't gonna get a faster, cheaper, or better fence for your Equines.....guaranteed.

Mark



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steveormary

04-30-2005 17:19:22




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
Dont know anything about horses and caint drink beer no more.

staveormary



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Jim from PA

04-30-2005 17:18:05




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
SJ I would recomend a 4 or 5 wire polycoated wire. I have 10 acres in pature for my horses with wood posts all the way around with a 5 wire polycoat. The wire is a high tensile wire with a .312 diamter polycoat plastic coating. My top wire is a bare high tensile that is hot. It works great. Gives you the security of high tensile, but wont slice your horses up if they run into it. It holds up great to temperature extremes and UV rays. It is as easy to install as high tensile. Goes up quicker than tape and lasts a whole lot longer. I have had mine for 7 years with no problems. Once a year I walk the fence line and secure a few staples and tighten up the lines, takes me about an hour. With tapes you always have sag from the wind whipping it around and broken line connecters that need replaced on a regular basis. Also if not kept hot the horses will chew on the tape.

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Shepherd_Bill

04-30-2005 13:43:27




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 Re: Elec. Tape Fencing??????? in reply to SJ, 04-30-2005 13:27:02  
Premier of Washington, Iowa has a great fence catalog that will answer most of your questions. They also have very good products. Better than most farm supply stores.

They have a web page premier1supplies



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