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Seeding for hay

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Bill in NorthCe

04-10-2005 18:41:01




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I have a 8 to 10 acre field that I will be planting trees in the future. In the meantime, I would like to plant some hay that the neighbor farmer would like to cut and bale. My question is, What type of grass should I be growing, seeing that I do not want to lime which will hinder growing trees in the future. The soil is pretty heavy clay with alot of rocks (3-5" diameter, 1/2" to 1" thick).

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Bill

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Phil/PA

04-11-2005 12:00:48




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 Re: Seeding for hay in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 04-10-2005 18:41:01  
Probably the best thing to do would be to ask the farmer who is going to bale it, if he"s going to take it might as well plant something he wants/needs. I"m in southeastern PA and I have a field of orchard grass and clover mix which was recommended by Penn State for a pasture, I just haven"t fenced all of it in yet. It makes nice hay when I get it but the problem is it comes in early and the weather is always an issue, last year part of my first cutting was rained on and the other part I had to cut too late in order to get a good weather window.

My other field is Timothy nad it is a nice hay and preferred by the horse people. It is baled much later but you only get one cutting. Either one of these it is the wrong time to plant, you will have too much competition from the weeds. You want to plant in the late summer.

Alfalfa is nice but not sure if you want the expense and unless you"re ready to plant now it is getting too late to get it in the ground, at least in my area, you may be a few weeks behind me depending on how far north you are.

Not adding lime is going to hurt the yields so keep that in mind, not sure what kind of arrangement you have worked out with your neighbor.

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FarmerDave

04-11-2005 11:38:39




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 Re: Seeding for hay in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 04-10-2005 18:41:01  
switch grass



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txgrn

04-11-2005 07:40:37




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 Re: Seeding for hay in reply to Bill in NorthCentral PA, 04-10-2005 18:41:01  
Down heah in Texas, Y'all, we plants what's called hay-grazer. It is in the sorghum family but grows taller, smaller leaves, and lacks the familiar head of seeds that are found on the cattle feed variety of sorghum....the seeds (grain) that's used to make feedlot chow.

It is an annual plant and has to be replanted yearly. That makes it nice as you have to plow the field annually, and reseed annually, so you have weed control and no grassy residue like you would have with a grass.

Costs $21 per ton here and we plant 100# per acre. Make roughly 5 round bales per acre for 5 ton per acre yield.

That and coastal bermuda are the forage of choice in this area (but you don't want bermuda, unless you want your trees to come up in it).

Mark

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