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OT: best chain saw to buy

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another hoosier

04-09-2005 14:27:10




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We heat with wood and use about 6 cords of wood each year I have always used 2 saws a big one ( that I dont use much) and a smaller one that I use alot I have in the past used Poulan,remington,Stihl,and Mcoulgh..But the last 2 small saws have both seen shop time with only being 2 years old this doesent seem right so I now am trying to figure out which would be the best saw for me to use nothing to big I trully love the little stihls but they seem to need to much shop time...How are Husqvarnas? Are they any better? I dont abuse them but we do use them I keep extra chains and a file with me all the time .. Any one else have this same problem?

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another hoosier

04-10-2005 05:13:23




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
Thanks to all who replied see The last new saw I bought was a Stihl it was a 170 but I never thought Stihl would put their name on a saw that has already been to the shop 2 times in 18 months once at 13 months and next time at 18 months I did know they were making cheaper saws also I will just have to find a good one... Thanks again Jim



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Hurst

04-10-2005 11:08:19




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-10-2005 05:13:23  
Any more, a lot of these companies are just like shoes, you pay for the name. Sure, a lot of basketball players where nikes, but there are other companies out there that make just as good, if not better shoes for less. We used to use all stihl weedeaters and chain saws, but when the time came to buy some new stuff for our farm, we have switched to echo. The parts are easy for us to get, not that they need many that often. We have an echo chainsaw, and I don't recall it going into the shop yet after around 5 years of farm work, including 2 ice storms. They are much less than stihl and husq., but are just as durable if not more. Our chainsaw has been dropped countless times, left in the back of a truck in the rain once that I know of, and was in about 2 inches of water, but the next day, she purred like a kitten. They are easy to start and idle well. They are light, and easy to handle. In my opinion, go with an echo. The best price for one will probably be at Home Depot, who started to carry echos not long ago, and then for parts, find a small engine place, although it can be cheaper to buy the saw fromt hte small engine place some time. Good luck.

Hurst

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sibby(Aus)

04-10-2005 02:43:41




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
STIHL are still the best, spend your money once and enjoy.



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mikeinWA

04-10-2005 00:09:06




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
Seriously-Stihl or Husqy. I am surrounded by life time loggers. Big saws usually Husqy for falling and smaller modified stihls at home. Keep the intake clean run clean fresh fuel and keep them in wood. That is to say dont over rev on limbing etc.



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jdemaris

04-09-2005 20:16:39




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
The old Remmington Mall saws were well built, rugged, and very crude by today's standards. They were in the same class as the old gear reduction drive Homelites like the Buz, or Super Wiz. The later Remmingtons, ca. 1970s-80s like what John Deere used to sell painted green, were absolute crap. When I worked for Asplundh in the late 1960s and early 70s, all we used was Mculloch and Homelite. Good rugged saws as far as taking crashes when you dropped them out of trees. But, they were often stalling, didn't want to start when hot, etc. etc. We thought they were good saws until we started using Stihls in the early 70s. At first I was skeptical - especially with new devices like "automatic oilers." But, what a difference. They always started, they'd idle between cuts without stalling, they outlast the Homelite XL12s four-to-one. So, there was no going back. I still have all my older Stihls, never ruined one yet. I've got an S10, O40, O41, 041 Super, O30, O8S, and an 045 Super. Sometime around the late 80s, Stihl stopped using magnesium parts and changed over to plastic - I guess to lighten the saws. Personally, I'd rather have the extra weight with the metal. Today, from what I've see with logger friends and their saws, at least with the professional model saws, the Huskys and Echos seem to perform and hold up just as well as the Stihls. At a home-owner level of saw, I don't know. I was a Stihl mechanic at a Deere dealership, and when Stihl started making a cheap line of saws, some of them were crap - especially the 011 and 015. I've heard their newer line of consumer level saws is pretty good. I bought a couple of Poulans at at gargage sale a few years ago, assuming them to be junk as most Poulans used to be. But, these had the Sears Craftman Professional label on them, and it seems they are a little better quality than Poulan's low-level models. I've been quite impressed with them. No matter what saw you buy, try to find one that has ball bearings on both sides of the crankshaft, and a chromium impregnated cylinder wall or made with the Mahle process. The cheap saws use needle bearings that ride directly on the crankshaft (and the cranks wear out), and cylinder walls with a cheap plating that peels off the first time it gets overheated. Saws built like that are, more-or-less "throw-away saws."

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dr.sportster

04-09-2005 19:37:48




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
Cant tell ya mine.It is unAmerican.Ill give you a hint though.World champion motocross bikes.



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Hurst

04-10-2005 10:58:37




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to dr.sportster, 04-09-2005 19:37:48  
Honda?



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Indydirtfarmer

04-09-2005 19:15:12




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
At work, we've rented about all the "name brands". After trying 'em all, I bought a Stihl MS260 last year. Hands down the best saw I've ever had the pleasure of using.



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thejdman01

04-09-2005 17:53:13




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
i dont care waht anyone says im a die hard jd fan but every brand every model has a weak point and will require some sort of maintenance at sometime if you cant get service or parts you wont be happy with any brand no matter how good it is it will break. no matter how expensive how fancy.



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thejdman01

04-09-2005 17:50:31




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
im sorry but i dont give two hoots what anyone says its about the dealer nearby that gives you service. you can have the biggest lemon in the world and the dealer is knowledgable prompt trys for you and it is as bearable and fun as having a good saw and needing an air filter and the dealer cant get it for you or real rude etc. with that being said jonsereds are excellent excellent hands down but stihl is decent cheaper. an old jd 60v will run a 20 in bar w/plenty of power if you can find one. old macs are bears to get started and no parts but are fairly good saws. new jd's are a no no made by homelite to "jd" standards i work for a deere dealer and dont even speak highly of them and dont own one even with my employee discount and i have recently bought a saw was a jonsered.

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jdemaris

04-09-2005 19:54:33




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to thejdman01, 04-09-2005 17:50:31  
I haven't looked at the Deere saws lately and I haven't worked for a Deere dealer in over 10 years. But, the early Deere saws were made by Remmington and they were absolute CRAP. Then, Deere started selling Japanese saws made by Kioritz Corp. of Japan, better known as Echo. They were good reliable saws, but not the greatest parts availability. I think Deere still sells some Echos, and Echo also sells them under their own name.

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Bill in NorthCentral PA

04-09-2005 17:38:56




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
We have always used Jonsereds for the last thirty years. I bought a Husqvarna for the first time last year. It lasted about eleven months and "blew up." The dealer covered it under warranty (which is a two year warranty if registered to a homeowner.) I took the credit and got another Jonsered. Our saws are run cutting Chroistmas trees, and they rarely ever get a good consistent run in. They rev up to cut then idle when walking to the next tagged tree. I was told this was probably the worst life for a saw, but I have a Jonsered that has cut 1,000s of trees, and I have never changed the plug. Most of the loggers aroung here use Stihls. I was going to try them, but the chains I already had were a smaller gauge and only fit Jonsered and Husqvarna.

Good Luck.

Bill

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sammy the RED

04-09-2005 16:35:19




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  

Stihl !



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marlowe

04-09-2005 15:41:50




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
most loggers use husqvarnas around me. have a 61 thats never seen the shop and cut mountains of wood



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Sloroll

04-09-2005 15:41:36




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
You will get as many answers as there are saws. I have always used Homelite as my Grandfather before me. He was a county man and sold me on them. I have one I use often that is just at 25 yrs old now. I have a newer one too but I wanna wear out the old one first. I get the largest XL offered and throw the 24" sprocket tip bar away and put a gas welded tip 16" bar on them. (I fix em for my brother and parents) Rarely do I cut over 32" log so this works well. The shorter blade allows me to use more horespower on the shorter chain and keeps the tip from digging dirt and dulling. I used to burn a Longwood Furnace and have cut up to 13 chord a year feeding it. My folks have it now (the furnace)and dual fuel it so it is a lot less work. Now I just play cutting wood.

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Dave 2N

04-09-2005 16:31:52




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to Sloroll, 04-09-2005 15:41:36  
What you describe has been my experience with Hoemlite too. I know a lot of people use Husqvaras, Stihls, and Jonsereds, but I'v ehad my Homelite Super XL for over 20 years and it keeps on ticking.



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Hurst

04-09-2005 15:26:52




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 Re: OT: best chain saw to buy in reply to another hoosier, 04-09-2005 14:27:10  
We use echos, they have been great for us, with almost no shop time, and that is on our farm, so they get a lot of use. Good luck. By the way,t hey are usually cheaper than stihls

Hurst



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